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Nation needs to pay its bills

Posted on: October 16, 2018 at 09:25:55 CT
raskolnikov MU
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Until you cut this spending (mostly viewed from the right as spending on social programs but also includes big chunks on disaster recovery from hurricane and tornado events as well as the amazing costs associate with fires out West) in order to pay your bills, you need to restrain the greed of applying tax cuts to the elites - that does not do squat for the people as a whole. THAT whole trickle down canard bullsht blew up years ago.

Reagan anyone? The boom with Reagan came from spending as it about always does.
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Biggest year over year deficit in 6 years - MrBlueSky MU - 10/16 08:20:37
     Lol. (nm) - DollarSigns MU - 10/16 09:52:43
     Record tax revenues. nm. - MUTGR MU - 10/16 09:40:19
          Lol. Is that true? - ummmm MU - 10/16 09:46:21
               Only from a overly simplistic view... - tigerdb MU - 10/16 10:57:03
               Fewer unemployed people... - MrBlueSky MU - 10/16 09:49:58
                    Gotta figure out a way to steal more from the corps then. (nm) - ummmm MU - 10/16 10:03:28
                         Corporate tax cuts were needed - MrBlueSky MU - 10/16 10:05:31
     it's all spending. deficit doesn't imply the other economic - 90Tiger STL - 10/16 08:52:54
          It's because we cut our own revenue. Nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 10/16 09:09:28
               Link? (nm) - DoltfromSTL MU - 10/16 09:36:15
               Our revenue? - ummmm MU - 10/16 09:34:26
                    Lol. Liberals think the gov't is "them" . It is their church - hefeweizen MU - 10/16 09:36:17
                    sparky thinks of himself as a borg-like entitity (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 10/16 09:35:42
                         It's sad how well connected govt and big business elites - ummmm MU - 10/16 09:37:24
                              below is telling you without gvmt we couldn't have kids. - 90Tiger STL - 10/16 09:39:03
                                   Lol. THE STRAWMAN EXPERT EVERYONE - MrBlueSky MU - 10/16 09:39:34
                                        No, but you are very easily impressed. - ummmm MU - 10/16 09:44:04
                    Lol (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 10/16 09:35:06
               keep clinging! (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 10/16 09:34:08
               Please provide data (nm) - Sal KC - 10/16 09:34:01
               that's not how any of this works(nm) - MizzouAstro MU - 10/16 09:32:24
               Utterly and completely wrong - FootballRefugee MU - 10/16 09:24:22
               Stop posting already, you're wrong and you lost - Calca STL - 10/16 09:13:55
          And lost revenues, of course (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 10/16 09:06:23
     Too much spending, as always. (nm) - ummmm MU - 10/16 08:38:45
          yep (nm) - Sal KC - 10/16 09:25:12
          Yeah, what could $1.5 trillion tax cut have to do w/it?(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 10/16 08:49:59
               Nothing, you dishonest pos partisan hack. The cuts did - hefeweizen MU - 10/16 08:55:48
                    3.20% return on investment for the year, zero real wage - catbirdseat MU - 10/16 09:35:19
                         False and you are the worst poster in TB history(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 10/16 09:37:35
                              DENY !!, Attack !!, what a trumpette Hefe is. (nm) - raskolnikov MU - 10/16 10:46:51
                              Those are the actual numbers as of 3 minutes ago. Sorry - catbirdseat MU - 10/16 09:39:20
                    No. The cuts did not do that - raskolnikov MU - 10/16 09:14:19
                         that "growth" ran it's course already. - catbirdseat MU - 10/16 09:36:29
                              Not at all, obviously(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 10/16 10:00:34
                              keep clinging! (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 10/16 09:37:34
                         keep clinging! (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 10/16 09:34:31
                         Exactly what a dishonest pos partisan hack would say.(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 10/16 09:31:38
                         lmfao you are dumb as hell (nm) - Sal KC - 10/16 09:25:42
                    Pretty sad - meatiger MU - 10/16 09:11:47
                         there are no fiscal conservatives on either "side", meat. - 90Tiger STL - 10/16 09:35:14
                              They "advocate" - meatiger MU - 10/16 09:57:48
                    Deficit = Revenue - spending. Nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 10/16 09:10:12
                         Nation needs to pay its bills - raskolnikov MU - 10/16 09:25:55
                              And that starts by slashing spending and wasteful programs - FootballRefugee MU - 10/16 09:28:53
                                   Been over this many times - raskolnikov MU - 10/16 10:03:59
               Nothing. The $1.5 trillion theft relief has zero impact - ummmm MU - 10/16 08:54:26
                    Theft relief! - MrBlueSky MU - 10/16 09:11:11
                         It's an accurate one. (nm) - ummmm MU - 10/16 09:26:59
                              Have any kids? - MrBlueSky MU - 10/16 09:36:59
                                   Oh lord. You act like I don't pay a boatload of - ummmm MU - 10/16 09:38:21
                                        I could go on - MrBlueSky MU - 10/16 09:44:37
                                             Then don't act like I'm getting this amazing deal. (nm) - ummmm MU - 10/16 09:52:38
                                                  I suppose you think you could make a better deal - MrBlueSky MU - 10/16 10:18:57
                    It did raise the deficit, clearly. Nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 10/16 09:10:46
                         There was a time when there were no income taxes - ummmm MU - 10/16 09:27:44
               Need to cut a bunch of your social programs and cut - TheWildcat STL - 10/16 08:53:34
     Too much spending primarily on - Ferg STL - 10/16 08:38:05
          welfare doesn't exist. You know that? - catbirdseat MU - 10/16 09:38:31
               good god - Ferg STL - 10/16 09:45:42
          And military (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 10/16 08:50:06
          RE: Too much spending primarily on - None**** MU - 10/16 08:47:02
          LOL - meatiger MU - 10/16 08:44:58
               What programs do I want to protect? - Ferg STL - 10/16 08:47:10
                    RE: What programs do I want to protect? - meatiger MU - 10/16 08:50:40
                         biggest part of budget? - 90Tiger STL - 10/16 08:53:27
                              RE: biggest part of budget? - meatiger MU - 10/16 08:58:36
                                   within what? lol (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 10/16 09:03:59
                                        There are "social security/medicare taxes", with inflows - tigerdb MU - 10/16 09:29:22
                                             my GOP? lol, dear god no (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 10/16 09:38:29
                         Defense is less than 20% of spending - Ferg STL - 10/16 08:52:29
                              RE: Defense is less than 20% of spending - meatiger MU - 10/16 08:54:05
                              Is there a reason why the defense budget has to be - playhard NWMSU - 10/16 08:53:43
                                   No. But based on historical levels as a % of GDP - Ferg STL - 10/16 09:02:41
                                        Who cares about % of GDP - meatiger MU - 10/16 09:12:57
                                        That's because the largest age cohort in the USA is - MrBlueSky MU - 10/16 09:07:28
                                        Blame the baby boomers, there's a lot of them and - playhard NWMSU - 10/16 09:06:23
                                             As a small first step how about - Ferg STL - 10/16 09:12:07
                                                  Make it 70 - MrBlueSky MU - 10/16 09:14:00
                                                       I’m good with that - Ferg STL - 10/16 09:14:55
                                                            Are you including ALL public sector retirement - MrBlueSky MU - 10/16 09:25:18
                                                                 I'm saying all public sector retirement plans - Ferg STL - 10/16 09:47:45
                                                                      meh, you're wrong again... - tigerdb MU - 10/16 10:00:03
                                             The answer to that is I don't know. It should have never - TheWildcat STL - 10/16 09:09:27
                                                  I would take it back on even money - meatiger MU - 10/16 09:14:47
                                                  Hard to cut things that people have paid into their entire - MrBlueSky MU - 10/16 09:10:49
                                                       cut OAS and gut DI (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 10/16 09:14:59
                              Less than 20% of $4.5 trillion - ummmm MU - 10/16 08:53:40
                                   no question (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 10/16 09:04:25
                    Maybe start with Social Security?(nm) - playhard NWMSU - 10/16 08:48:01
                         SS is public sector retirement and - Ferg STL - 10/16 08:50:00
                              Addressed as in cut? How much pork do you think - playhard NWMSU - 10/16 08:52:36
                         He did say "welfare" (nm) - ummmm MU - 10/16 08:49:26
                    Military spending is what you want to protect. - MrBlueSky MU - 10/16 08:47:43
                         Where did I say that? - Ferg STL - 10/16 08:50:47
                              You said welfare, SS, and public sector retirement - MrBlueSky MU - 10/16 08:53:33
                              RE: Where did I say that? - meatiger MU - 10/16 08:52:43
                                   That’s where the growth has come from. Im - Ferg STL - 10/16 08:58:04
                                        RE: That’s where the growth has come from. Im - meatiger MU - 10/16 08:59:25
          How long before you all want $1 trillion...with a T - playhard NWMSU - 10/16 08:42:47
               I’d prefer less spending on defense. However - Ferg STL - 10/16 08:45:57
     I think household debt is going to be a big issue - playhard NWMSU - 10/16 08:37:28
          RE: I think Warren's fall from prominence in the - None**** MU - 10/16 08:41:22
               The only shame is she didn't do this closer to 2020 (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 10/16 08:44:07
     Yep, my only real complaint with Trump. He is certainly - TheWildcat STL - 10/16 08:30:05
          It's real pathetic that "owning the libs" has become - MrBlueSky MU - 10/16 08:43:38
               Then wise up and stop letting TheClown own you(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 10/16 08:57:13
                    It's time that you admit that he's not the clown you think - TheWildcat STL - 10/16 09:03:30
                         He is TheClown and will always be. Has he done enough - hefeweizen MU - 10/16 09:33:33
               it's just an incredibly enjoyable side benefit. (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 10/16 08:54:54
               RE: Pathetic that Dems continue to offer themselves up for - None**** MU - 10/16 08:48:10
               Oh he has done a ton of great things. I never believed - TheWildcat STL - 10/16 08:44:44
          What a shock - meatiger MU - 10/16 08:43:37
     I saw you changed that. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 10/16 08:27:05
     Strong economies shouldnt run huge deficits nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 10/16 08:26:14
          lol (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 10/16 08:55:33
          "the economy" doesn't do anything - MizzouAstro MU - 10/16 08:41:19
          The economy is not running a deficit. (nm) - ummmm MU - 10/16 08:38:26
          Trump is having to spend a great deal of money to fix... - DoltfromSTL MU - 10/16 08:35:21
               "robbed the military" - meatiger MU - 10/16 08:45:51
                    Link? (nm) - DoltfromSTL MU - 10/16 09:37:39
          Yeah, Barry never had a strong economy - FootballRefugee MU - 10/16 08:28:04
               And Obama never ran a deficit this large when he - SparkyStalcup MU - 10/16 08:31:05
                    Huh? When did he have a strong economy? - DoltfromSTL MU - 10/16 08:33:05
                         Apparently you can. Nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 10/16 08:34:30
                    Obama added more to the deficit than any Pres in history (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 10/16 08:32:53
                         Again debt and deficit are different things. - MrBlueSky MU - 10/16 08:46:44
                              Lol NO **** BLUE SKY?! (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 10/16 08:49:06
                         Obama cut the deficit by roughly 70%. Trump has doubled - SparkyStalcup MU - 10/16 08:35:29
                              Uhhh, when he left office there was 20 trillion. When he got - TheWildcat STL - 10/16 08:40:28
                                   Debt and deficit are two different things. - MrBlueSky MU - 10/16 08:44:45
                                        Obama added more to the debt than any president - TheWildcat STL - 10/16 08:48:22
                                             Year over year deficits peaked for Obama in 2012 - MrBlueSky MU - 10/16 08:52:00
                                                  That forgives nothing (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 10/16 08:52:33
                              Link? (nm) - DoltfromSTL MU - 10/16 08:36:37
                         Combined I believe(nm) - tman MU - 10/16 08:34:30




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