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Laws require a law giver.

Posted on: June 8, 2018 at 13:34:28 CT
MizzouTigerz MU
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At some point, the greatest skeptic has to answer the question of origin. From whence did the universe come into existence? How did the laws of nature get put into place. Randomness and chaos do not generate order. There was an initial cause which accounts for the existence of all things.

Was there a big bang? If yes, what caused the big bang? If no, what happened? Where did the materials of the big bang or some other sets of events come from?

When you get to the end of the line, the answer is always the same.

Almighty God, the Creator-Sustainer of the universe.
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Was the 13A necessary or was slavery/involutary servitude - hefeweizen MU - 6/8 10:40:27
     Laws require a law giver. - MizzouTigerz MU - 6/8 13:34:28
     There is no such thing a 'natural law' - Spanky KU - 6/8 10:46:29
          It exists simply by definition. As do other concepts for - GA Tiger MU - 6/8 12:06:21
          Hmm. So is every one of your actions governed by - ummmm MU - 6/8 12:01:22
          do you ever think for yourself?(nm) - meatiger MU - 6/8 11:21:05
               Never (nm) - pickle MU - 6/8 11:42:36
               Do you? - Spanky KU - 6/8 11:27:15
                    For sure - meatiger MU - 6/8 12:18:33
          So Adams and Jefferson were full of sh*t and murder, - hefeweizen MU - 6/8 10:53:21
               You just don't get it, do you? - Spanky KU - 6/8 10:58:38
                    This is isn't a social contract issue, even if Adams and - ummmm MU - 6/8 12:02:43
                         The US Constitution is a Social Contract - Spanky KU - 6/8 12:09:55
                              The constitution is in no way, shape, or form - pickle MU - 6/8 12:13:18
                                   Wrong as usual: The fundamental basis for government and - Spanky KU - 6/8 14:08:26
                                        Not only is that wrong - pickle MU - 6/8 14:23:16
                                             You are an ignorant dumb@ss - Spanky KU - 6/8 14:32:48
                              Ok, so if that's the case, answer my OP(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 6/8 12:11:54
                                   Done - Spanky KU - 6/8 12:15:58
                                        nope, you didnt answer the question at all. LOL(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 6/8 12:17:21
                                             Yep.. I sure did. - Spanky KU - 6/8 12:27:26
                                                  lol, this is just too funny(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 6/8 12:28:59
                              No, it's not. The Social Contract is an implicit, unwritten - ummmm MU - 6/8 12:11:31
                                   Yes, it is - Spanky KU - 6/8 12:13:47
                                        If it is then why the need for the 13thA when the 9thA - hefeweizen MU - 6/8 12:15:55
                                             The 9th did not prohibit slavery or involuntary servitude. - Spanky KU - 6/8 12:19:13
                                                  Keep flailing away. LOL(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 6/8 12:21:01
                    lol (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 6/8 11:38:03
                    lol, you just will not answer a direct question if it - hefeweizen MU - 6/8 10:59:21
                         Is capital punishment murder? - Spanky KU - 6/8 11:02:53
                              yes and yes(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 6/8 11:03:26
                                   The 'natural law' proponents tell me abortion is NOT murder - Spanky KU - 6/8 11:18:00
                                        No, not all believe that. The differences fall on the - TigerMatt STL - 6/8 11:27:18
                                             So who defines personhood in 'natural law'? - Spanky KU - 6/8 11:33:40
                                        I think they are wrong because I believe the right to life - hefeweizen MU - 6/8 11:19:28
                                             So tell me about natural law again, Mommy. - Spanky KU - 6/8 11:21:49
                                                  JFC, this is what you have been reduced to? so pathetic(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 6/8 11:22:47
                                                       The hypocrisy of those who cling to 'natural law' theory - Spanky KU - 6/8 11:26:09
                                                            I dont need it written down for me to know it is wrong to - hefeweizen MU - 6/8 11:29:08
                                                                 Do you think I approve of abortion or capital punishment - Spanky KU - 6/8 11:32:07
                                                                      Why dont you tell me what you believe instead of asking - hefeweizen MU - 6/8 11:32:53
                                                                           You seem to be all knowing and telling ME what I believe - Spanky KU - 6/8 11:34:21
                                                                                I never claimed to know what your beliefs are. That's why - hefeweizen MU - 6/8 11:35:12
                                                                                     "Nice to know that your morality is based soley on whether - Spanky KU - 6/8 11:36:28
                                                                                          RE: "Nice to know that your morality is based soley on whether - hefeweizen MU - 6/8 11:37:18
                                                                                               and? - Spanky KU - 6/8 11:40:35
                                                                                                    JFC, those were your words dude. So you dont even - hefeweizen MU - 6/8 11:42:05
                                                                                                         Social Contract has very little to do with morality - Spanky KU - 6/8 11:43:10
                                                                                                              Social Contract has almost nothing to do with the OP. - ummmm MU - 6/8 12:06:32
                                                                                                                   Yes.. it actually does. - Spanky KU - 6/8 12:15:25
                                                                                                              Oh my. You need to go back to school dude. LMFAO - hefeweizen MU - 6/8 11:45:20
                                                                                                                   Nice pick..Reality: The social contract concerns the - Spanky KU - 6/8 11:49:11
                                                                                                                        RE: Nice pick..Reality: The social contract concerns the - hefeweizen MU - 6/8 11:52:19
                                                                                                              You got that right: it has very little to do with morality - pickle MU - 6/8 11:44:46
                                                                                                                   Nope - Spanky KU - 6/8 11:49:43
                                                                                                                        I'm quite familiar with it - pickle MU - 6/8 11:56:33
                                                                                                                             It appears you are not living in reality - Spanky KU - 6/8 11:59:35
                                                            You fail to understand Social Contract theory infringes on - TigerMatt STL - 6/8 11:28:50
                                                                 No.. I really don't fail to understand that. - Spanky KU - 6/8 11:30:56
                                                                      You contradict yourself. As your post indicates - TigerMatt STL - 6/8 11:33:58
                                                                           It is forced on no-one. - Spanky KU - 6/8 11:35:46
                                                                                There is no social contract - pickle MU - 6/8 11:45:55
                                                                                     Western Civilization is based on Social Contract theory... - Spanky KU - 6/8 11:51:45
                                                                                          incorrect (nm) - pickle MU - 6/8 11:54:52
                                                                                               Join reality - Spanky KU - 6/8 12:02:55
                                                                                          Social Contract theory is an excuse for man to dominate - TigerMatt STL - 6/8 11:54:08
                                                                                               nope - Spanky KU - 6/8 12:03:19
                                                                                And where is a single island that does not fall under the - TigerMatt STL - 6/8 11:43:08
                                                                                     Ask pickel - Spanky KU - 6/8 17:57:39
               Jefferson was participating in some of what you listed - MrBlueSky MU - 6/8 10:56:06
                    That's completely irrelevant to this discussion. I am - hefeweizen MU - 6/8 10:57:19
                         They followed SOCIAL CONTRACT theory! - Spanky KU - 6/8 10:59:07
                              So as long as it is written down law, they would be - hefeweizen MU - 6/8 11:00:06
                                   Did you ever take a Western Civ class? - Spanky KU - 6/8 11:01:59
                                        Yes and I have a degree in Poli Sci. Answer my question. - hefeweizen MU - 6/8 11:03:09
                                             As do I - Spanky KU - 6/8 11:19:04
                                                  Why wont you answer my direct questions? JFC(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 6/8 11:20:34
                                                       Because, like Plato, I am trying to lead you to your own - Spanky KU - 6/8 11:23:15
                                                            lol, that's not why. (nm) - hefeweizen MU - 6/8 11:23:52
                                                                 It is PRECISELY why - Spanky KU - 6/8 11:26:40
                                                                      no it isnt. It is to avoid your obvious hypocrisy(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 6/8 11:30:43
                                                                           Flail away - Spanky KU - 6/8 11:32:31
                                                                                yes, you do insist on doing that instead of answering - hefeweizen MU - 6/8 11:34:28
                                                                                     Because your questions are juvenile and leading - Spanky KU - 6/8 11:42:15
                                                                                          LMFAO. Leading? They were as direct as they could - hefeweizen MU - 6/8 11:43:34
                                                                                               Flail away - Spanky KU - 6/8 11:59:56
                                             Spanky believes in whatever others tell him to beileve as - MizzouAstro MU - 6/8 11:07:01
                                                  You know nothing about me, dipstick - Spanky KU - 6/8 11:21:09
                                                       how the **** would anyone know since you never answer - hefeweizen MU - 6/8 11:23:25
                                                            lmfao (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 6/8 11:39:21
                         My bad (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 6/8 10:58:08
     It was a choice - mizzoumurfkc MU - 6/8 10:41:21




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