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This is isn't a social contract issue, even if Adams and

Posted on: June 8, 2018 at 12:02:43 CT
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Jefferson adhered to that philosophy (which is debatable).

This is about whether there is natural law among humans that positive laws attempt to codify at times.
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Was the 13A necessary or was slavery/involutary servitude - hefeweizen MU - 6/8 10:40:27
     Laws require a law giver. - MizzouTigerz MU - 6/8 13:34:28
     There is no such thing a 'natural law' - Spanky KU - 6/8 10:46:29
          It exists simply by definition. As do other concepts for - GA Tiger MU - 6/8 12:06:21
          Hmm. So is every one of your actions governed by - ummmm MU - 6/8 12:01:22
          do you ever think for yourself?(nm) - meatiger MU - 6/8 11:21:05
               Never (nm) - pickle MU - 6/8 11:42:36
               Do you? - Spanky KU - 6/8 11:27:15
                    For sure - meatiger MU - 6/8 12:18:33
          So Adams and Jefferson were full of sh*t and murder, - hefeweizen MU - 6/8 10:53:21
               You just don't get it, do you? - Spanky KU - 6/8 10:58:38
                    This is isn't a social contract issue, even if Adams and - ummmm MU - 6/8 12:02:43
                         The US Constitution is a Social Contract - Spanky KU - 6/8 12:09:55
                              The constitution is in no way, shape, or form - pickle MU - 6/8 12:13:18
                                   Wrong as usual: The fundamental basis for government and - Spanky KU - 6/8 14:08:26
                                        Not only is that wrong - pickle MU - 6/8 14:23:16
                                             You are an ignorant dumb@ss - Spanky KU - 6/8 14:32:48
                              Ok, so if that's the case, answer my OP(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 6/8 12:11:54
                                   Done - Spanky KU - 6/8 12:15:58
                                        nope, you didnt answer the question at all. LOL(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 6/8 12:17:21
                                             Yep.. I sure did. - Spanky KU - 6/8 12:27:26
                                                  lol, this is just too funny(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 6/8 12:28:59
                              No, it's not. The Social Contract is an implicit, unwritten - ummmm MU - 6/8 12:11:31
                                   Yes, it is - Spanky KU - 6/8 12:13:47
                                        If it is then why the need for the 13thA when the 9thA - hefeweizen MU - 6/8 12:15:55
                                             The 9th did not prohibit slavery or involuntary servitude. - Spanky KU - 6/8 12:19:13
                                                  Keep flailing away. LOL(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 6/8 12:21:01
                    lol (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 6/8 11:38:03
                    lol, you just will not answer a direct question if it - hefeweizen MU - 6/8 10:59:21
                         Is capital punishment murder? - Spanky KU - 6/8 11:02:53
                              yes and yes(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 6/8 11:03:26
                                   The 'natural law' proponents tell me abortion is NOT murder - Spanky KU - 6/8 11:18:00
                                        No, not all believe that. The differences fall on the - TigerMatt STL - 6/8 11:27:18
                                             So who defines personhood in 'natural law'? - Spanky KU - 6/8 11:33:40
                                        I think they are wrong because I believe the right to life - hefeweizen MU - 6/8 11:19:28
                                             So tell me about natural law again, Mommy. - Spanky KU - 6/8 11:21:49
                                                  JFC, this is what you have been reduced to? so pathetic(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 6/8 11:22:47
                                                       The hypocrisy of those who cling to 'natural law' theory - Spanky KU - 6/8 11:26:09
                                                            I dont need it written down for me to know it is wrong to - hefeweizen MU - 6/8 11:29:08
                                                                 Do you think I approve of abortion or capital punishment - Spanky KU - 6/8 11:32:07
                                                                      Why dont you tell me what you believe instead of asking - hefeweizen MU - 6/8 11:32:53
                                                                           You seem to be all knowing and telling ME what I believe - Spanky KU - 6/8 11:34:21
                                                                                I never claimed to know what your beliefs are. That's why - hefeweizen MU - 6/8 11:35:12
                                                                                     "Nice to know that your morality is based soley on whether - Spanky KU - 6/8 11:36:28
                                                                                          RE: "Nice to know that your morality is based soley on whether - hefeweizen MU - 6/8 11:37:18
                                                                                               and? - Spanky KU - 6/8 11:40:35
                                                                                                    JFC, those were your words dude. So you dont even - hefeweizen MU - 6/8 11:42:05
                                                                                                         Social Contract has very little to do with morality - Spanky KU - 6/8 11:43:10
                                                                                                              Social Contract has almost nothing to do with the OP. - ummmm MU - 6/8 12:06:32
                                                                                                                   Yes.. it actually does. - Spanky KU - 6/8 12:15:25
                                                                                                              Oh my. You need to go back to school dude. LMFAO - hefeweizen MU - 6/8 11:45:20
                                                                                                                   Nice pick..Reality: The social contract concerns the - Spanky KU - 6/8 11:49:11
                                                                                                                        RE: Nice pick..Reality: The social contract concerns the - hefeweizen MU - 6/8 11:52:19
                                                                                                              You got that right: it has very little to do with morality - pickle MU - 6/8 11:44:46
                                                                                                                   Nope - Spanky KU - 6/8 11:49:43
                                                                                                                        I'm quite familiar with it - pickle MU - 6/8 11:56:33
                                                                                                                             It appears you are not living in reality - Spanky KU - 6/8 11:59:35
                                                            You fail to understand Social Contract theory infringes on - TigerMatt STL - 6/8 11:28:50
                                                                 No.. I really don't fail to understand that. - Spanky KU - 6/8 11:30:56
                                                                      You contradict yourself. As your post indicates - TigerMatt STL - 6/8 11:33:58
                                                                           It is forced on no-one. - Spanky KU - 6/8 11:35:46
                                                                                There is no social contract - pickle MU - 6/8 11:45:55
                                                                                     Western Civilization is based on Social Contract theory... - Spanky KU - 6/8 11:51:45
                                                                                          incorrect (nm) - pickle MU - 6/8 11:54:52
                                                                                               Join reality - Spanky KU - 6/8 12:02:55
                                                                                          Social Contract theory is an excuse for man to dominate - TigerMatt STL - 6/8 11:54:08
                                                                                               nope - Spanky KU - 6/8 12:03:19
                                                                                And where is a single island that does not fall under the - TigerMatt STL - 6/8 11:43:08
                                                                                     Ask pickel - Spanky KU - 6/8 17:57:39
               Jefferson was participating in some of what you listed - MrBlueSky MU - 6/8 10:56:06
                    That's completely irrelevant to this discussion. I am - hefeweizen MU - 6/8 10:57:19
                         They followed SOCIAL CONTRACT theory! - Spanky KU - 6/8 10:59:07
                              So as long as it is written down law, they would be - hefeweizen MU - 6/8 11:00:06
                                   Did you ever take a Western Civ class? - Spanky KU - 6/8 11:01:59
                                        Yes and I have a degree in Poli Sci. Answer my question. - hefeweizen MU - 6/8 11:03:09
                                             As do I - Spanky KU - 6/8 11:19:04
                                                  Why wont you answer my direct questions? JFC(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 6/8 11:20:34
                                                       Because, like Plato, I am trying to lead you to your own - Spanky KU - 6/8 11:23:15
                                                            lol, that's not why. (nm) - hefeweizen MU - 6/8 11:23:52
                                                                 It is PRECISELY why - Spanky KU - 6/8 11:26:40
                                                                      no it isnt. It is to avoid your obvious hypocrisy(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 6/8 11:30:43
                                                                           Flail away - Spanky KU - 6/8 11:32:31
                                                                                yes, you do insist on doing that instead of answering - hefeweizen MU - 6/8 11:34:28
                                                                                     Because your questions are juvenile and leading - Spanky KU - 6/8 11:42:15
                                                                                          LMFAO. Leading? They were as direct as they could - hefeweizen MU - 6/8 11:43:34
                                                                                               Flail away - Spanky KU - 6/8 11:59:56
                                             Spanky believes in whatever others tell him to beileve as - MizzouAstro MU - 6/8 11:07:01
                                                  You know nothing about me, dipstick - Spanky KU - 6/8 11:21:09
                                                       how the **** would anyone know since you never answer - hefeweizen MU - 6/8 11:23:25
                                                            lmfao (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 6/8 11:39:21
                         My bad (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 6/8 10:58:08
     It was a choice - mizzoumurfkc MU - 6/8 10:41:21




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