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Posted on: June 6, 2018 at 12:31:03 CT

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Which should eliminate differences in competition and pace, then they basically had the same type of freshman season.

I think they are similar players that impact the game in similar ways.
Offensively they score on spot ups, transition and offensive rebounds. Santos may end up being more adept at using the shot fake and attacking the rim. That’s still to be seen.
Defensively neither were good defender under prior coaches, but have the athleticism to be good 3 and D players. It took Barnett 20 games under Cuonzo to become that player.

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Two somewhat older articles regarding Torrence Watson - longtimereader MU - 6/5 15:02:34

Watson is underrated IMO. I’m most excited about him (nm) - Hbombtiger STL - 6/5 15:19:03

In order of impact of new, eligible players... - tjwheeler UI - 6/5 15:46:40

Braun may end up redshirting (nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 6/5 16:51:07

If you have Santos as four, you don't know JACK - itznotwillis MU - 6/5 16:39:55

Santos lead the team in scoring? - tjwheeler UI - 6/5 16:57:10

Team lead is between Santos and Jontay. - alwaysright MU - 6/5 17:49:44

Why so much confidence in a guy who - tjwheeler UI - 6/5 19:11:13

Because you think he's a post player and - alwaysright MU - 6/5 20:37:45

I don't think he's a post player. - tjwheeler UI - 6/5 21:12:31

You suggested he's competing with Tilmon & Jontay - alwaysright MU - 6/5 21:50:43

He'll start at the 3, but that's not his best position. - tjwheeler UI - 6/5 22:22:47

Just for you, I watched some more video. - alwaysright MU - 6/5 22:57:31

Thanks, I rewatched it for you too. - tjwheeler UI - 6/5 23:39:07

. - alwaysright MU - 6/5 22:57:15

thats basically Barnett, except Barnett has the high - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/5 22:38:44

Barnett would've only averaged 7 pts at UIC? - tjwheeler UI - 6/5 22:41:33

Barnett barely played at Texas - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/5 22:47:39

So, you didn't answer my question(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 6/5 23:39:23

There’s no way of knowing what Barnett would have done - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/6 11:10:42

It's not hard to make an educated guess. - tjwheeler UI - 6/6 12:13:32

If you look at advanced stats - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/6 12:31:03

I think the bottom line is people can draw their conclusion - longtimereader MU - 6/6 13:04:35

Agree with that(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 6/6 13:30:06

Can you lay out those stats? (re "basically had the same - tjwheeler UI - 6/6 12:52:17

Here’s a link - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/6 12:59:44

Cool. And, yet you're comparing stats at UIC vs - tjwheeler UI - 6/6 13:29:48

You could break it down further - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/6 16:12:31

Can't agree with that at all. - tjwheeler UI - 6/6 20:11:03

Are you purposely mis representing what he said - longtimereader MU - 6/5 21:46:33

"Team lead is between Santos and Jontay" - tjwheeler UI - 6/5 22:20:30

I've already mention below I missed that and gave my opinion - longtimereader MU - 6/5 23:43:12

Sorry, didn't see it. - tjwheeler UI - 6/5 23:57:14

I doubt Santos will struggle defensively - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/5 22:49:25

Well if you say so. (nm) - tjwheeler UI - 6/5 23:39:47

I did say he will compete with Jontay for the team lead, - alwaysright MU - 6/5 21:52:24

Then my apologies. I missed that, - longtimereader MU - 6/5 22:11:15

I would switch the order up - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/5 16:01:48

I guess it's a matter of preference on the 1st 2 - longtimereader MU - 6/5 16:14:12

I agree, it'c close but we need a scoring guard and Watson - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 6/5 16:17:02

I envision Santos to be more of a Barnett style of player - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/5 17:11:19

RE: In order of impact of new, eligible players... - Ragarm MU - 6/5 15:59:50

Pinson vs Jaylon Tate - tjwheeler UI - 6/5 16:20:54

Tate never improved at Illinois (nm) - Uncle John MU

- 6/5 16:26:11

He was a throw in to try and get Jabari. - tjwheeler UI - 6/5 16:29:55

That last statement may be the biggest plus in his corner - longtimereader MU - 6/5 16:10:04

I switch Santos and Braun all day in terms of next year(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 6/5 15:53:28

Healthy tho?(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 6/5 16:08:07

No reason to assume he isn't at this moment - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 6/5 16:13:02

Not injured this very second doesn't prove - tjwheeler UI - 6/5 16:22:14

Sure you can wonder about it all you want - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 6/5 16:31:01

"In order of impact" - tjwheeler UI - 6/5 16:33:22

Braun won't have much impact next year, we're deep there - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 6/5 16:36:33

And yet the position of greatest concern? - tjwheeler UI - 6/5 16:54:46

PG is for sure greatest concern(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 6/5 16:58:27

It’s been 2.5 years since his last injury - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/5 16:30:21

And two years since he played. - tjwheeler UI - 6/5 16:32:02

Didn’t he play the 16-17 season at UIC? - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/5 16:33:41

Yes he played 16-17 at UIC(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 6/5 16:37:09

Then I don’t know where the hasn’t played in 2 years - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/5 16:38:42

This article says 2 years removed in the header then - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 6/5 16:42:57

Well it does say "nearly" - longtimereader MU - 6/5 17:07:01

Yep, sat out one season. - tjwheeler UI - 6/5 17:04:00

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