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Posted on: March 28, 2018 at 15:26:04 CT
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Is The Urban Institute or CNN 'Uncle Sam'?

http://money.cnn.com/2013/04/14/news/economy/social-security-benefits/index.html

Up until now, Social Security has been a windfall for many retirees: They collected far more in benefits than they shelled out in taxes.

That's changing. Many of those retiring will have paid more into the coveted entitlement program than they will get back.

Here are the numbers:

A couple who each earned the average wage during their careers and retired in 1990 would have paid $316,000 in Social Security taxes, but collected $436,000 in benefits, according to data crunched by Eugene Steuerle, an economist at the Urban Institute.

Had that couple turned 65 in 2010, however, they would have paid $600,000 in taxes, but could expect to collect just $579,000. This is the first time in the program's history that taxes outweighed benefits for this group, a couple with average earnings.

The imbalance will get more pronounced for future generations of retirees. Couples now in their early 40s will have forked over $808,000 in Social Security taxes by the time they retire, but get back only $703,000 in benefits.

The Urban Institute included payroll taxes paid by both the employee and employer, but did not include the portion used for Social Security's disability insurance program. Since 2000, taxes for just the retirement program have totaled 10.6% -- 5.3% from the employee and the same from the employer. The levy is paid on income up to a certain threshold -- $113,700 for 2013. The institute said it adjusted its calculations for inflation plus 2%, about what a person could have traditionally realized in savings had they put the money in the bank.
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     So they pay taxes - meatiger MU - 3/28 15:19:00
          Is it a law that everyone file federal income tax forms? If - hokie VT - 3/28 16:24:07
          Yep.. stop importing welfare recipients. We need skilled - Spanky KU - 3/28 15:22:30
               be sure the employer sponsering them has healthcare - tigerinhogtown STL - 3/28 15:39:25
                    How many legal immigrants have an employer sponsor - Spanky KU - 3/28 15:53:32
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                              yep, here's the requirement to get legal status - tigerinhogtown STL - 3/28 16:10:42
                              He needs to raise prices and be a better salesman then - Spanky KU - 3/28 16:09:59
                                   it's always someone else's fault to a liberal - FootballRefugee MU - 3/28 17:30:02
                                        I don't think that's what DC was saying... - Spanky KU - 3/28 18:10:58
                                        you continue to be unimpressive (nm) - DC Jayhawk KU - 3/28 17:48:11
                                   LOL - meatiger MU - 3/28 16:18:41
                                        Trump didn't raise the minimum wage in DC - Spanky KU - 3/28 16:20:43
                         don't know, but we were trying to bring one in from Haiti - tigerinhogtown STL - 3/28 15:59:34
                              You may have to fly to Haiti to train him - Spanky KU - 3/28 16:10:36
                                   My daughter is spending about half her time down there - tigerinhogtown STL - 3/28 16:13:24
                                        You raised a good kid - Spanky KU - 3/28 16:22:07
               Why should you or the government judge - meatiger MU - 3/28 15:27:25
                    Because it's our ****ing tax dollars. - mizzouSECedes STL - 3/28 15:49:21
                    lol you seem fine with gvmt 'judging' who can be on the - 90Tiger MU - 3/28 15:32:36
                         How so?(nm) - meatiger MU - 3/28 16:01:14
                    Why shouldn't I be able to judge that? - Spanky KU - 3/28 15:30:08
     can we start penalizing others on welfare too? - El-ahrairah BAMA - 3/28 15:04:27
          We are forced to contribute to SS - mizzouSECedes STL - 3/28 15:52:00
               Don't count on it. - DC Jayhawk KU - 3/28 15:53:08
                    we thought the same thing in the 80 & 90's - tigerinhogtown STL - 3/28 16:31:05
                    You're right unfortunately - mizzouSECedes STL - 3/28 15:57:30
                         So has anyone with half a brain - Spanky KU - 3/28 16:33:16
                         Likewise. - DC Jayhawk KU - 3/28 15:58:52
                    Not mine.... - Spanky KU - 3/28 15:54:27
                         In 2020, SSA must sell their TBonds to cover benefits - DC Jayhawk KU - 3/28 15:57:18
                              They will extend the retirement age to 80 for you guys.... - Spanky KU - 3/28 16:13:27
                                   Ouch (nm) - DC Jayhawk KU - 3/28 17:56:54
                                        You will live to 100 at least - Spanky KU - 3/28 18:03:14
          Typical. Change the meaning of welfare to include all - hokie VT - 3/28 15:51:09
               Define Welfare. - DC Jayhawk KU - 3/28 15:52:29
                    financial support given to people in need. - Spanky KU - 3/28 16:59:50
                    Public assistance at taxpayers’ expense excluding - hokie VT - 3/28 16:04:21
                         "Public assistance" - DC Jayhawk KU - 3/28 16:06:24
                              All of those..financial support based on need - Spanky KU - 3/28 18:44:45
                              Sorry, not playing. I knew you were going to ask - hokie VT - 3/28 16:15:43
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               You sure know nothing about a lot of things nm - redngray MU - 3/28 19:46:52
               Yea get that CRP program out of my life and - catbirdseat MU - 3/28 15:48:34
          You do understand those people paid real money - Rabbit Test MU - 3/28 15:16:30
          Medicare and SS are not welfare - Spanky KU - 3/28 15:07:16
               Lol. You swallow Uncle Sam without question.(nm) - Emmanuel Goldstein MU - 3/28 15:16:39
                    Facts hurt your little bitty brain, don't they? - Spanky KU - 3/28 15:26:04
                         It isn't a benefit when you pay in more than you get. - Emmanuel Goldstein MU - 3/28 15:53:45
                              It sure as hell isn't welfare, is it? - Spanky KU - 3/28 15:55:06
                                   No. It is very much welfare. - Emmanuel Goldstein MU - 3/28 15:58:36
                                        Welfare is financial assistance based on need - Spanky KU - 3/28 18:11:59
                                             I dont need either', so why should I have to pay in?(nm) - Emmanuel Goldstein MU - 3/28 19:38:22
                                        RE: No. It is very much welfare. - meatiger MU - 3/28 16:03:06
                                             red herring. who cares? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 3/28 16:53:50
                         RE: Facts hurt your little bitty brain, don't they? - meatiger MU - 3/28 15:29:31




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