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I think their success is too recent relatively speaking

Posted on: February 23, 2018 at 15:03:30 CT
FIJItiger MU
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They are one of the great modern programs, but I don't know that a new program can really crack the historical top 5 at this point. Duke probably got in just at the tail end of the definition.
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In your mind, which schools are the blue bloods in BB? And - Tiger_1995 MU - 2/23 14:33:43
     are: Duke, MSU, KY, KU Vill were: UCLA. NC. Duke, KU MSU, In - Macgrantt MU - 2/23 15:43:59
     Haith era Mizzou - Cosmo MU - 2/23 15:31:43
          Mizzou if Martavian Payne & Tramaine Isabell had played - Mizzmi27 MU - 2/23 15:52:58
               hell yes! (nm) - Cosmo MU - 2/23 15:56:38
          I already responded below with a real answer (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 2/23 15:47:28
               Tough to tell which genuine and which is total bullsh*t - Cosmo MU - 2/23 15:49:20
                    The genuine posts have my handle next to them - FIJItiger MU - 2/23 15:50:16
                         LOL (nm) - zounami MU - 2/23 15:54:47
                              Agree - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 2/23 15:57:06
     Here would be my argument of why it is silly to include ku - FIJItiger MU - 2/23 15:29:02
     uK, dook, unc, ucla...then kU, Indiana...then zona, uconn - playhard NWMSU - 2/23 15:13:34
          the list.... - catbirdseat MU - 2/23 15:24:10
     San Francisco(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 2/23 14:58:53
     5+ national titles (UCLA, UNC, Duke, Indiana, Kentucky) (nm) - zounami MU - 2/23 14:51:12
          30 years since IU won a title, they have to be left off(nm) - playhard NWMSU - 2/23 15:40:44
               I think Indiana has to be looked at differently - FIJItiger MU - 2/23 15:46:31
                    Agree. You can't tell the history of college basketball or - alwaysright MU - 2/23 16:40:41
                         They're in the conversation, i just don't think they belong - playhard NWMSU - 2/23 16:45:35
     Its tiered - FIJItiger MU - 2/23 14:37:27
          LOL(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 2/23 20:05:06
          Lol - MakeShift MU - 2/23 19:11:49
          Arizona should be in there. (nm) - zounami MU - 2/23 14:52:37
               Arizona was nothing prior ot the 80's and is - alwaysright MU - 2/23 16:45:15
          UCLA and Indiana aren't tier 1. - tgr MU - 2/23 14:42:15
               It's not like UCLA hasn't done anything since Wooden - KC rules MU - 2/23 15:51:16
               The moment UCLA is a contender again they're elite - Grasslands MU - 2/23 15:42:20
                    Pretty tough on the coach though - Cosmo MU - 2/23 16:25:59
               UCLA is as blue-blooded as they come. (nm) - zounami MU - 2/23 14:53:17
                    Obviously it is very subjective to what people consider - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 2/23 15:03:01
               That's right.(nm) - Uncle John MU - 2/23 14:45:40
               Its not a current state concept - FIJItiger MU - 2/23 14:44:42
                    I think you have to take into account the current state - tgr MU - 2/23 14:48:37
                         Blue blood and elite are two different things. - alwaysright MU - 2/23 18:03:44
                         NCAA is my least favorite program(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 2/23 14:52:01
                              Me too! Fixed it.(nm) - tgr MU - 2/23 14:53:59
                         Personally I think the notion of a blue blood is very silly - FIJItiger MU - 2/23 14:51:12
                              RE: Personally I think the notion of a blue blood is very silly - bobbileedham MU - 2/23 15:03:50
                                   only 3 national titles... next (nm) - zounami MU - 2/23 15:34:21
                                        RE: only 3 national titles... next (nm) - KC rules MU - 2/23 15:47:22
                                             You're from Kansas city, so your perception of KU is skewed. - zounami MU - 2/23 15:49:29
                                                  Try googling blue blood or elite program and see what you - KC rules MU - 2/23 15:52:19
                                                       I'm sure your opinion is shared by many Kansas citians, but - zounami MU - 2/23 16:20:10
                                                            RE: I'm sure your opinion is shared by many Kansas citians, but - KC rules MU - 2/23 16:28:59
                                                                 You seem to be taking this personally... - zounami MU - 2/23 16:35:47
                                                                      Not personal - KC rules MU - 2/23 16:41:43
                                                       they have strong vested interest in creating misinformation(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 2/23 15:59:48
                                                            RE: they have strong vested interest in creating misinformation(nm) - KC rules MU - 2/23 16:04:10
                                             Final Four wasn't a thing until 1978 (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 2/23 15:48:15
                                                  It's still a good bellweather of where a program is at - KC rules MU - 2/23 15:53:25
                                                       If you measure success by losing 1 round before the - FIJItiger MU - 2/23 15:58:53
                                                            I look at the entire body of work - KC rules MU - 2/23 16:00:35
                                   Man, there is a handle I had forgotten about - FIJItiger MU - 2/23 15:07:53
                                        RE: Man, there is a handle I had forgotten about - Big Ray 2 USA - 2/23 16:04:58
                              I agree with you but you can fall out. The Army football - TheWildcat STL - 2/23 14:53:35
                                   When was Army considered a blue blood? - FIJItiger MU - 2/23 14:55:22
                                        So, now semantics about the term used is what we are - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 2/23 14:58:05
                                             Exactly(nm) - TheWildcat STL - 2/23 15:01:21
                                             In terms of sport, blue blood is a modern terminology used - FIJItiger MU - 2/23 15:01:21
                                                  I'll wait for Macgrantttttttt to weigh in - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 2/23 15:03:55
                                                       A commoner such as yourself likely needs it defined for you(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 2/23 15:05:07
                                                            I'd rather be a commoner than a moraner like u(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 2/23 15:07:55
               Agree (nm) - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 2/23 14:44:03
          I agree with this(nm) - TheWildcat STL - 2/23 14:38:31
               Tier 3 would be Indiana/Georgetown/Syracuse/Arizona (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 2/23 14:39:22
                    Indiana > Arizona > Syracuse > Georgetown (nm) - zounami MU - 2/23 15:30:42
                    Indiana due to history is Tier 1 - coolbean MU - 2/23 14:43:40
                    Indiana has 5 national championships - FIJItiger MU - 2/23 14:41:54
                         Army football had 3 national championships and 3 Heisman - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 2/23 14:45:58
                              Anyone can claim to be one. ku claims to be one in bb - FIJItiger MU - 2/23 14:47:48
                                   Well sure. But some claims are better than others. I - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 2/23 14:51:01
                                        As of today - FIJItiger MU - 2/23 14:53:18
                                             RE: As of today - Big Ray 2 USA - 2/23 16:21:19
                                             As of today, Yale has 17 national championships in football. - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 2/23 14:55:22
                                                  The concept of a national championship in college - FIJItiger MU - 2/23 14:56:41
                                                       Well it sounded like you were using total number of titles - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 2/23 14:59:54
                                                            I think their success is too recent relatively speaking - FIJItiger MU - 2/23 15:03:30
                                                                 Well then it's just obvious that we differ on the actual - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 2/23 15:05:38
                                                                      Agree, very subjective and open to discussion (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 2/23 15:08:52
     duke, uk, unc, ucla - Kazoo MU - 2/23 14:36:29
          I'm not sure I'd include UCLA at this point in time. While - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 2/23 14:43:26
          Yep, those are the top, uh, five.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 2/23 14:40:29




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