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The concept of a national championship in college

Posted on: February 23, 2018 at 14:56:41 CT

FIJItiger MU

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football isn't the same as it is in college basketball. I don't see them as apples to apples criteria. I can't really speak to college football, I haven't really heard the concept of a blue blood applied to that sport.

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In your mind, which schools are the blue bloods in BB? And - Tiger_1995 MU - 2/23 14:33:43

are: Duke, MSU, KY, KU Vill were: UCLA. NC. Duke, KU MSU, In - Macgrantt MU - 2/23 15:43:59

Haith era Mizzou - Cosmo MU

- 2/23 15:31:43

Mizzou if Martavian Payne & Tramaine Isabell had played - Mizzmi27 MU - 2/23 15:52:58

hell yes! (nm) - Cosmo MU

- 2/23 15:56:38

I already responded below with a real answer (nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 2/23 15:47:28

Tough to tell which genuine and which is total bullsh*t - Cosmo MU

- 2/23 15:49:20

The genuine posts have my handle next to them - FIJItiger MU

- 2/23 15:50:16

LOL (nm) - zounami MU - 2/23 15:54:47

Agree - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 2/23 15:57:06

Here would be my argument of why it is silly to include ku - FIJItiger MU

- 2/23 15:29:02

uK, dook, unc, ucla...then kU, Indiana...then zona, uconn - playhard NWMSU - 2/23 15:13:34

the list.... - catbirdseat MU

- 2/23 15:24:10

San Francisco(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 2/23 14:58:53

5+ national titles (UCLA, UNC, Duke, Indiana, Kentucky) (nm) - zounami MU - 2/23 14:51:12

30 years since IU won a title, they have to be left off(nm) - playhard NWMSU - 2/23 15:40:44

I think Indiana has to be looked at differently - FIJItiger MU

- 2/23 15:46:31

Agree. You can't tell the history of college basketball or - alwaysright MU - 2/23 16:40:41

They're in the conversation, i just don't think they belong - playhard NWMSU - 2/23 16:45:35

Its tiered - FIJItiger MU

- 2/23 14:37:27

LOL(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 2/23 20:05:06

Lol - MakeShift MU - 2/23 19:11:49

Arizona should be in there. (nm) - zounami MU - 2/23 14:52:37

Arizona was nothing prior ot the 80's and is - alwaysright MU - 2/23 16:45:15

UCLA and Indiana aren't tier 1. - tgr MU

- 2/23 14:42:15

It's not like UCLA hasn't done anything since Wooden - KC rules MU - 2/23 15:51:16

The moment UCLA is a contender again they're elite - Grasslands MU - 2/23 15:42:20

Pretty tough on the coach though - Cosmo MU

- 2/23 16:25:59

UCLA is as blue-blooded as they come. (nm) - zounami MU - 2/23 14:53:17

Obviously it is very subjective to what people consider - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 2/23 15:03:01

That's right.(nm) - Uncle John MU

- 2/23 14:45:40

Its not a current state concept - FIJItiger MU

- 2/23 14:44:42

I think you have to take into account the current state - tgr MU

- 2/23 14:48:37

Blue blood and elite are two different things. - alwaysright MU - 2/23 18:03:44

NCAA is my least favorite program(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 2/23 14:52:01

Me too! Fixed it.(nm) - tgr MU

- 2/23 14:53:59

Personally I think the notion of a blue blood is very silly - FIJItiger MU

- 2/23 14:51:12

RE: Personally I think the notion of a blue blood is very silly - bobbileedham MU - 2/23 15:03:50

only 3 national titles... next (nm) - zounami MU - 2/23 15:34:21

RE: only 3 national titles... next (nm) - KC rules MU - 2/23 15:47:22

You're from Kansas city, so your perception of KU is skewed. - zounami MU - 2/23 15:49:29

Try googling blue blood or elite program and see what you - KC rules MU - 2/23 15:52:19

I'm sure your opinion is shared by many Kansas citians, but - zounami MU - 2/23 16:20:10

RE: I'm sure your opinion is shared by many Kansas citians, but - KC rules MU - 2/23 16:28:59

You seem to be taking this personally... - zounami MU - 2/23 16:35:47

Not personal - KC rules MU - 2/23 16:41:43

they have strong vested interest in creating misinformation(nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 2/23 15:59:48

RE: they have strong vested interest in creating misinformation(nm) - KC rules MU - 2/23 16:04:10

Final Four wasn't a thing until 1978 (nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 2/23 15:48:15

It's still a good bellweather of where a program is at - KC rules MU - 2/23 15:53:25

If you measure success by losing 1 round before the - FIJItiger MU

- 2/23 15:58:53

I look at the entire body of work - KC rules MU - 2/23 16:00:35

Man, there is a handle I had forgotten about - FIJItiger MU

- 2/23 15:07:53

RE: Man, there is a handle I had forgotten about - Big Ray 2 USA - 2/23 16:04:58

I agree with you but you can fall out. The Army football - TheWildcat STL - 2/23 14:53:35

When was Army considered a blue blood? - FIJItiger MU

- 2/23 14:55:22

So, now semantics about the term used is what we are - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 2/23 14:58:05

Exactly(nm) - TheWildcat STL - 2/23 15:01:21

In terms of sport, blue blood is a modern terminology used - FIJItiger MU

- 2/23 15:01:21

I'll wait for Macgrantttttttt to weigh in - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 2/23 15:03:55

A commoner such as yourself likely needs it defined for you(nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 2/23 15:05:07

I'd rather be a commoner than a moraner like u(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 2/23 15:07:55

Agree (nm) - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 2/23 14:44:03

I agree with this(nm) - TheWildcat STL - 2/23 14:38:31

Tier 3 would be Indiana/Georgetown/Syracuse/Arizona (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 2/23 14:39:22

Indiana > Arizona > Syracuse > Georgetown (nm) - zounami MU - 2/23 15:30:42

Indiana due to history is Tier 1 - coolbean MU - 2/23 14:43:40

Indiana has 5 national championships - FIJItiger MU

- 2/23 14:41:54

Army football had 3 national championships and 3 Heisman - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 2/23 14:45:58

Anyone can claim to be one. ku claims to be one in bb - FIJItiger MU

- 2/23 14:47:48

Well sure. But some claims are better than others. I - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 2/23 14:51:01

As of today - FIJItiger MU

- 2/23 14:53:18

RE: As of today - Big Ray 2 USA - 2/23 16:21:19

As of today, Yale has 17 national championships in football. - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 2/23 14:55:22

The concept of a national championship in college - FIJItiger MU

- 2/23 14:56:41

Well it sounded like you were using total number of titles - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 2/23 14:59:54

I think their success is too recent relatively speaking - FIJItiger MU

- 2/23 15:03:30

Well then it's just obvious that we differ on the actual - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 2/23 15:05:38

Agree, very subjective and open to discussion (nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 2/23 15:08:52

duke, uk, unc, ucla - Kazoo MU - 2/23 14:36:29

I'm not sure I'd include UCLA at this point in time. While - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 2/23 14:43:26

Yep, those are the top, uh, five.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 2/23 14:40:29