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ok? you're convincing (nm)
Posted on: February 21, 2018 at 15:32:35 CT
90Tiger
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In the limited/no government world of pickle, umm, TigerMatt
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MrBlueSky
MU
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2/21 14:25:45
"are the people still the same"?
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pickle
MU
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2/21 14:39:48
Your old "Gee, I don't understand" dodge is old and lame
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tigerinhogtown
STL
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2/21 14:50:25
what does "will people be the same" mean and how would
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90Tiger
MU
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2/21 15:15:48
I would answer yes cause people and more important
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tigerinhogtown
STL
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2/21 16:02:35
if i don't understand the question, then I say so
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pickle
MU
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2/21 15:08:18
In your society
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MrBlueSky
MU
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2/21 14:40:57
I don't understand your question.
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pickle
MU
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2/21 14:47:52
So why are your potential "private laws" different/better
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MrBlueSky
MU
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2/21 14:51:59
Voluntary relationships over coercive relationships
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pickle
MU
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2/21 15:09:20
it takes gvmt, the biggest infringing actor, out of the
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90Tiger
MU
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2/21 14:58:19
Government is the biggest offender of rights infringement
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TigerMatt
MU
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2/21 14:53:45
check your premise (nm)
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90Tiger
MU
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2/21 14:44:53
people will always infringe on the rights of others. infrin
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90Tiger
MU
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2/21 14:36:53
You didn't answer the question
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MrBlueSky
MU
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2/21 14:37:57
You believe people don't commit crime only because a
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TigerMatt
MU
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2/21 14:42:05
Fear of punishment
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MrBlueSky
MU
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2/21 14:59:32
some? wasn't for the millions of folks in prison, on probati
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90Tiger
MU
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2/21 15:01:54
So you think zero people have decided not to commit
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MrBlueSky
MU
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2/21 15:03:33
No, but I absolutely think just as many would decide to not
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90Tiger
MU
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2/21 15:04:24
These things you've just written happen regularly
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MrBlueSky
MU
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2/21 15:07:06
no different? then why are you challenging it? (nm)
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90Tiger
MU
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2/21 15:08:46
Because what you're suggesting sounds
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MrBlueSky
MU
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2/21 15:15:36
Government is set up to preserve the power of the strong and
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TigerMatt
MU
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2/21 15:19:17
he doesn't realize he makes this argument on a regular
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90Tiger
MU
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2/21 15:21:58
wait, you just said it sounds "no different" than the curren
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90Tiger
MU
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2/21 15:18:43
It's no different but I suspect it would be worse for
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MrBlueSky
MU
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2/21 15:27:43
ok? you're convincing (nm)
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90Tiger
MU
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2/21 15:32:35
On what basis? How would more personal freedom and control
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TigerMatt
MU
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2/21 15:31:26
Being exiled or ostracized in your community unable to
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TigerMatt
MU
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2/21 15:01:41
why is that? millions are incarcerated in the US currently -
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90Tiger
MU
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2/21 14:41:41
Infringement and use of force would decrease because govt
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TigerMatt
MU
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2/21 14:33:03
People aren't very cooperative to begin with now
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MrBlueSky
MU
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2/21 14:39:09
People are extremely cooperative
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pickle
MU
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2/21 14:43:22
My life is filled with nearly 100% cooperative relationships
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90Tiger
MU
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2/21 14:42:17
So rape, theft, murder shrink, because of cooperation?
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RHAYWORTH
MU
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2/21 14:37:43
rape, theft and murder are rampant in the US and our
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90Tiger
MU
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2/21 14:43:25
In your magical land, repeat offenders don't exist?
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RHAYWORTH
MU
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2/21 14:49:12
Repeat offenders exist currently, is the US a "magical land"
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90Tiger
MU
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2/21 14:58:59
You guys ever watch mob film Goodfellas?
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RHAYWORTH
MU
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2/21 15:34:04
also, check your premise regarding "no one around to
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90Tiger
MU
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2/21 15:42:17
a long time ago, heroin, morphine and other derivative produ
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90Tiger
MU
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2/21 15:41:47
gangsters are a reality in this society. and are nearly
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90Tiger
MU
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2/21 15:36:52
So, by making everything legal, no organized crime?
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RHAYWORTH
MU
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2/21 15:45:30
I see you didn't address my response. thanks. (nm)
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90Tiger
MU
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2/21 15:56:59
Plesse share details on an organized crime
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TigerMatt
MU
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2/21 15:49:19
Do repeat offenders not exist now?(nm)
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TigerMatt
MU
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2/21 14:50:36
how does government prevent rape, theft and murder?(nm)
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cnk
ATL
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2/21 14:39:14
What would be the deterrent
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MrBlueSky
MU
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2/21 14:36:30
straw man
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pickle
MU
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2/21 14:48:43
I didn't change the subject
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MrBlueSky
MU
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2/21 14:49:40
a straw man isn't a change of subject
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pickle
MU
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2/21 15:15:05
nothing but their conscience and the ramifications of
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90Tiger
MU
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2/21 14:59:45
What keeps people from infringing now? Nothing.(nm)
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TigerMatt
MU
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2/21 14:52:02
Why haven't you murdered your neighbors? fear of the police
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90Tiger
MU
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2/21 14:44:45
I don't understand these types of questions.
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MrBlueSky
MU
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2/21 15:00:57
Violent people will do violence with our without government.
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90Tiger
MU
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2/21 15:03:37
stop with the "perfect society" straw man already. it's
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90Tiger
MU
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2/21 14:44:10
The reason for this thread is very clear
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MrBlueSky
MU
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2/21 15:02:36
Government takes rights away now. It is not a protection.
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TigerMatt
MU
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2/21 15:06:09
Government does not take away rights from just
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MrBlueSky
MU
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2/21 15:08:44
gvmt takes my earnings before I see them. gvmt can
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90Tiger
MU
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2/21 15:21:16
I don't have a right to my own earnings. Government takes
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TigerMatt
MU
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2/21 15:18:29
lol
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90Tiger
MU
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2/21 15:09:20
The only laws that exist are against infringement of
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TigerMatt
MU
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2/21 14:40:47
RE: What would be the deterrent
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90Tiger
MU
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2/21 14:40:46
What’s the deterrent now?
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El-ahrairah
BAMA
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2/21 14:40:43
have they said there won't be individuals infringing
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SwampTiger
MU
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2/21 14:26:46