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Government takes rights away now. It is not a protection.

Posted on: February 21, 2018 at 15:06:09 CT
TigerMatt STL
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There are no infallible protections. People will be infringed upon. But government is by far the biggest criminal organization.
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In the limited/no government world of pickle, umm, TigerMatt - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 14:25:45
     "are the people still the same"? - pickle MU - 2/21 14:39:48
          Your old "Gee, I don't understand" dodge is old and lame - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/21 14:50:25
               what does "will people be the same" mean and how would - 90Tiger MU - 2/21 15:15:48
                    I would answer yes cause people and more important - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/21 16:02:35
               if i don't understand the question, then I say so - pickle MU - 2/21 15:08:18
          In your society - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 14:40:57
               I don't understand your question. - pickle MU - 2/21 14:47:52
                    So why are your potential "private laws" different/better - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 14:51:59
                         Voluntary relationships over coercive relationships - pickle MU - 2/21 15:09:20
                         it takes gvmt, the biggest infringing actor, out of the - 90Tiger MU - 2/21 14:58:19
                         Government is the biggest offender of rights infringement - TigerMatt STL - 2/21 14:53:45
               check your premise (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 2/21 14:44:53
     people will always infringe on the rights of others. infrin - 90Tiger MU - 2/21 14:36:53
          You didn't answer the question - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 14:37:57
               You believe people don't commit crime only because a - TigerMatt STL - 2/21 14:42:05
                    Fear of punishment - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 14:59:32
                         some? wasn't for the millions of folks in prison, on probati - 90Tiger MU - 2/21 15:01:54
                              So you think zero people have decided not to commit - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 15:03:33
                                   No, but I absolutely think just as many would decide to not - 90Tiger MU - 2/21 15:04:24
                                        These things you've just written happen regularly - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 15:07:06
                                             no different? then why are you challenging it? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 2/21 15:08:46
                                                  Because what you're suggesting sounds - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 15:15:36
                                                       Government is set up to preserve the power of the strong and - TigerMatt STL - 2/21 15:19:17
                                                            he doesn't realize he makes this argument on a regular - 90Tiger MU - 2/21 15:21:58
                                                       wait, you just said it sounds "no different" than the curren - 90Tiger MU - 2/21 15:18:43
                                                            It's no different but I suspect it would be worse for - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 15:27:43
                                                                 ok? you're convincing (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 2/21 15:32:35
                                                                 On what basis? How would more personal freedom and control - TigerMatt STL - 2/21 15:31:26
                         Being exiled or ostracized in your community unable to - TigerMatt STL - 2/21 15:01:41
               why is that? millions are incarcerated in the US currently - - 90Tiger MU - 2/21 14:41:41
     Infringement and use of force would decrease because govt - TigerMatt STL - 2/21 14:33:03
          People aren't very cooperative to begin with now - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 14:39:09
               People are extremely cooperative - pickle MU - 2/21 14:43:22
               My life is filled with nearly 100% cooperative relationships - 90Tiger MU - 2/21 14:42:17
          So rape, theft, murder shrink, because of cooperation? - RHAYWORTH MU - 2/21 14:37:43
               rape, theft and murder are rampant in the US and our - 90Tiger MU - 2/21 14:43:25
                    In your magical land, repeat offenders don't exist? - RHAYWORTH MU - 2/21 14:49:12
                         Repeat offenders exist currently, is the US a "magical land" - 90Tiger MU - 2/21 14:58:59
                              You guys ever watch mob film Goodfellas? - RHAYWORTH MU - 2/21 15:34:04
                                   also, check your premise regarding "no one around to - 90Tiger MU - 2/21 15:42:17
                                   a long time ago, heroin, morphine and other derivative produ - 90Tiger MU - 2/21 15:41:47
                                   gangsters are a reality in this society. and are nearly - 90Tiger MU - 2/21 15:36:52
                                        So, by making everything legal, no organized crime? - RHAYWORTH MU - 2/21 15:45:30
                                             I see you didn't address my response. thanks. (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 2/21 15:56:59
                                             Plesse share details on an organized crime - TigerMatt STL - 2/21 15:49:19
                         Do repeat offenders not exist now?(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 2/21 14:50:36
               how does government prevent rape, theft and murder?(nm) - cnk ATL - 2/21 14:39:14
          What would be the deterrent - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 14:36:30
               straw man - pickle MU - 2/21 14:48:43
                    I didn't change the subject - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 14:49:40
                         a straw man isn't a change of subject - pickle MU - 2/21 15:15:05
                         nothing but their conscience and the ramifications of - 90Tiger MU - 2/21 14:59:45
                         What keeps people from infringing now? Nothing.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 2/21 14:52:02
               Why haven't you murdered your neighbors? fear of the police - 90Tiger MU - 2/21 14:44:45
                    I don't understand these types of questions. - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 15:00:57
                         Violent people will do violence with our without government. - 90Tiger MU - 2/21 15:03:37
               stop with the "perfect society" straw man already. it's - 90Tiger MU - 2/21 14:44:10
                    The reason for this thread is very clear - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 15:02:36
                         Government takes rights away now. It is not a protection. - TigerMatt STL - 2/21 15:06:09
                              Government does not take away rights from just - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 15:08:44
                                   gvmt takes my earnings before I see them. gvmt can - 90Tiger MU - 2/21 15:21:16
                                   I don't have a right to my own earnings. Government takes - TigerMatt STL - 2/21 15:18:29
                                   lol - 90Tiger MU - 2/21 15:09:20
               The only laws that exist are against infringement of - TigerMatt STL - 2/21 14:40:47
               RE: What would be the deterrent - 90Tiger MU - 2/21 14:40:46
               What’s the deterrent now? - El-ahrairah BAMA - 2/21 14:40:43
     have they said there won't be individuals infringing - SwampTiger MU - 2/21 14:26:46




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