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Those are illegal activities. No equivalent in the least.

Posted on: January 31, 2018 at 14:37:14 CT
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The vigilantes and the imaginary "devout folks" are engaging in illegal and immoral activity. They are not the government. That example is a red herring.

This thread was started by falsely equating capital punishment with murder and taxation with theft.
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the board's thread-hijacker for abortion, a Christian fyi, - pickle MU - 1/31 13:56:52
     I didn't think you engaged with Jeff? - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 1/31 14:37:45
          I don't discuss issues with him (nm) - pickle MU - 1/31 15:02:49
               Then posting this thread is quite the cowardly act, no? (nm) - JeffB MU - 1/31 15:04:53
          Only when it suits him. He runs and hides from questions, - JeffB MU - 1/31 14:51:27
     Ah, so pickle lies, by putting words in my mouth in his - JeffB MU - 1/31 14:23:38
          Do you claim to be pro-life?(nm) - Danny Whizzbang USA - 1/31 14:46:15
               Yes. That does not mean that one cannot take the life of - JeffB MU - 1/31 14:48:39
                    So you aren't really pro-life. Thanks for the clarification(nm) - Danny Whizzbang USA - 1/31 15:45:43
                         So you want to redefine words, a lot like pickle, eh? (nm) - JeffB MU - 1/31 17:12:10
                              If you were pro-life, you would be anti-capital punishment - Danny Whizzbang USA - 1/31 18:20:08
                                   That is total BS. You are willing to be dishonest in order - JeffB MU - 2/1 13:07:23
                    Capital punishment is not self defense (nm) - pickle MU - 1/31 15:03:34
                         It can be in certain circumstances. Say for instance a poor - JeffB MU - 1/31 15:09:29
                              no, Jeff - pickle MU - 1/31 15:14:10
                                   So you're saying you can't refute Jeff's argument.(nm) - Alferd Packer MU - 1/31 15:30:12
          What about the US dropping bombs killing innocent - TigerMatt MU - 1/31 14:37:47
               If the target is of military value, then it is okay. - Alferd Packer MU - 1/31 15:36:30
               How about yourself, do you think war is inherently wrong? - JeffB MU - 1/31 14:46:23
                    Answer the question. - pickle MU - 1/31 14:47:40
                         Your hypocrisy is showing again pickle: - JeffB MU - 1/31 14:53:13
                              answer Matt's question, Jeff. (nm) - pickle MU - 1/31 14:58:41
                                   answer mine, hypocrite. (nm) - JeffB MU - 1/31 15:10:23
                                        this isn't about me, Jeff. Answer Matt's question (nm) - pickle MU - 1/31 15:14:49
                                             My question *was* an answer pickle, and your hypocrisy - JeffB MU - 1/31 15:31:39
                                                  no, your question was a dodge and dishonest (nm) - pickle MU - 1/31 15:46:51
                                                       No it was not. Ironic, though, that you, the #1 dodger on - JeffB MU - 1/31 17:16:14
          that's not what begging the question is, Jeff - pickle MU - 1/31 14:26:42
     You've also negated your long held position - mizzouSECedes STL - 1/31 14:15:23
          I've never said i wouldn't respond to his posts (nm) - pickle MU - 1/31 14:19:31
               ...just run and hide in cowardly fashion from my questions.(nm) - JeffB MU - 1/31 14:24:37
     His religious beliefs differ from your religious beliefs - Ferg STL - 1/31 14:13:03
          this isn't about religious beliefs - pickle MU - 1/31 14:14:21
               sure it is. You both have a religious dogma you - Ferg STL - 1/31 14:18:51
                    no, Ferg (nm) - pickle MU - 1/31 14:19:54
     It is ok for God to slaughter babies.(nm) - TigerMatt MU - 1/31 14:01:15
          Moreover, it's not inherently immoral for the state to - 90Tiger MU - 1/31 14:04:01
               Talk about straw man arguments... - JeffB MU - 1/31 14:45:29
               Execution of a convicted murderer is not the moral equivalen - Alferd Packer MU - 1/31 14:15:00
                    It is definitely the moral equivalent of murder - ummmm MU - 1/31 14:41:56
                         False premise. There are times when the execution of an - JeffB MU - 1/31 14:54:29
                              Jeff, you are ignorant of logic and logical fallacies - pickle MU - 1/31 14:59:32
                                   Your lack of a logical response is duly noted. (nm) - JeffB MU - 1/31 17:18:52
                              A person strapped to a gurney is not aggessing. (nm) - ummmm MU - 1/31 14:55:55
                                   But an aggressor is not always aggressing. Someone who - JeffB MU - 1/31 17:21:50
                                        LMFAO - pickle MU - 1/31 18:25:07
                                        What?? An aggressor is always aggressing. - ummmm MU - 1/31 17:43:05
                                   Jeff is going to twist and contort - pickle MU - 1/31 15:00:08
                    how about vigilantes murdering rapists? How about - 90Tiger MU - 1/31 14:17:16
                         Those are illegal activities. No equivalent in the least. - Alferd Packer MU - 1/31 14:37:14
                    It's murder, AP. (nm) - pickle MU - 1/31 14:15:36
                         Wrong.(nm) - Alferd Packer MU - 1/31 14:26:30
                              Then slavery wasn't slavery. Right? (nm) - pickle MU - 1/31 14:27:45
                                   The equivalent to your equating capital punishment with - Alferd Packer MU - 1/31 14:41:22
                                        pickle often does not think logically. (nm) - JeffB MU - 1/31 17:30:37
     well, you've managed to prove the obvious here, pickle - - 90Tiger MU - 1/31 14:00:34
     Pro-life and pro-death penalty - MrBlueSky MU - 1/31 13:58:10
          No, the hypocrisy is clearly on the side of the liberals - JeffB MU - 1/31 14:32:10
               LMFAO you're making the same argument, Jeff (nm) - pickle MU - 1/31 14:52:09
                    You seem to have difficulty with even the simplest of - JeffB MU - 1/31 17:33:20
               Are those juries always right? (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 1/31 14:49:07
                    RE: Are those juries always right? (nm) - Alferd Packer MU - 1/31 15:26:45
               but what if the criminals convicted of heinous crimes by - cnk ATL - 1/31 14:38:03
          So you're saying that executing a convicted murderer is - Alferd Packer MU - 1/31 14:11:28
               it's murder, it's immoral. "the same"? in the context of - 90Tiger MU - 1/31 14:15:35
                    All of those examples are equally immoral and illegal. - Alferd Packer MU - 1/31 14:46:53
                    No it is not at all! Your equivalencies make no sense. - DHighlander NWMSU - 1/31 14:26:44
                         It's murder, DH (nm) - pickle MU - 1/31 14:28:15
                              Suppose Adam holds a grudge against your brother. - Alferd Packer MU - 1/31 15:09:35
                                   there are many appropriate responses - pickle MU - 1/31 15:48:22
                                        Run and hide, pickles! - Alferd Packer MU - 1/31 15:51:27
                                             Grieving is one - pickle MU - 1/31 15:56:12
                                   RE: Suppose Adam holds a grudge against your brother. - cnk ATL - 1/31 15:13:03
                                        What? Sing some hack folk song? - Alferd Packer MU - 1/31 15:20:06
               both are murder. One is the state doing the murdering, the - hefeweizen MU - 1/31 14:15:15
                    No, they aren't. There is a distinction which honest people - Alferd Packer MU - 1/31 14:25:44
                         so, according to webster, capital punishment is - hefeweizen MU - 1/31 14:29:33
                              No. That isn't what Webster's says. - Alferd Packer MU - 1/31 14:53:54
                         how many people does it take to make murder not murder? (nm) - pickle MU - 1/31 14:28:45
                              How many pickles does it take to screw in a light bulb?(nm) - Alferd Packer MU - 1/31 14:55:00
                                   Answer the question - pickle MU - 1/31 15:48:57
                                        That was a serious question? - Alferd Packer MU - 1/31 15:52:43
                                             Yes, it is a very serious question - pickle MU - 1/31 15:56:52
               Yes, it is the exact same (nm) - pickle MU - 1/31 14:12:46
               "pro-life" - MrBlueSky MU - 1/31 14:11:58
                    All innocent life. - Alferd Packer MU - 1/31 14:56:25
                         The state has never executed innocent people? - MrBlueSky MU - 1/31 15:01:30
                              I suppose if the system isn't pristinely perfect then - Alferd Packer MU - 1/31 15:24:52
          That is because personal responsibility is something your - DHighlander NWMSU - 1/31 14:06:32
               then we should be murdering drunk drivers and smokers - 90Tiger MU - 1/31 14:18:47
                    In the law, there are different degrees of homicide. - Alferd Packer MU - 1/31 15:01:15
               Capital Punishment - The murder of a GUILTY (and sometimes - cnk ATL - 1/31 14:17:35
                    No. The EXECUTION of a guilty, unjustified murderer - Alferd Packer MU - 1/31 15:44:57
               Public safety - meatiger MU - 1/31 14:15:12
               How many people does it take to magically make murder - pickle MU - 1/31 14:13:42
                    How many morons does it take to dishonestly equate - Alferd Packer MU - 1/31 15:47:09
               People make public safety/health arguments in favor of - ummmm MU - 1/31 14:13:37
                    You can argue anything you wish, that does not make them - DHighlander NWMSU - 1/31 14:20:13
                         I'm just assessing the words you chose: "Public Safety" - ummmm MU - 1/31 14:26:54
                              No, you can attempt to validate anything. Something you are - DHighlander NWMSU - 1/31 14:28:02
                                   You realize that eugenic movements are premised on - ummmm MU - 1/31 14:29:55
                                   "No", but then you agree with him - pickle MU - 1/31 14:29:30
                                        Seriously. (nm) - ummmm MU - 1/31 14:30:08
                         Again, how many people does it take to magically transform - pickle MU - 1/31 14:24:45
                         Capital Punishment - The taking of guilty (and sometimes - cnk ATL - 1/31 14:21:06
               both are equally immoral and you're being shamefully - 90Tiger MU - 1/31 14:11:51
                    No, taking the life of someone who cannot abide by the laws - DHighlander NWMSU - 1/31 14:22:32
                         It's immoral - pickle MU - 1/31 14:41:08
               Is it murder to remove life support from someone unable - TigerMatt MU - 1/31 14:10:08
                    Is it murder if you have them make mom "comfortable" - hefeweizen MU - 1/31 14:12:11
                         I need a decoder ring for that sentence.(nm) - TigerMatt MU - 1/31 14:13:13
                              making mom "comfortable" is code for put her down - hefeweizen MU - 1/31 14:14:03
                                   did you name your labrador "mom"? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 1/31 14:19:36
                                        no, I called my mom, mom(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 1/31 14:20:27
                                        well, his mom definitely was a b1tch - cnk ATL - 1/31 14:20:09
                                             lol(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 1/31 14:20:41
          As opposed to pro-abortion, anti death penalty Dem-Libs? - Spanky KU - 1/31 14:03:24
               No one is pro-abortion spanky (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 1/31 14:07:40
                    You are 100% incorrect - Spanky KU - 1/31 14:18:31
                    then why do libs get so mad when one is prevented?(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 1/31 14:13:00
                         A woman seeking an abortion - MrBlueSky MU - 1/31 14:16:48
                              Do you think juries vote to condemn a killer to death - Spanky KU - 1/31 14:20:43
                              so it's premeditated (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 1/31 14:20:10
                              What's the difference - mizzouSECedes STL - 1/31 14:19:11
                                   there's not. (nm) - hefeweizen MU - 1/31 14:20:02
                              strawman. it is morally reprehensible just like all murders(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 1/31 14:18:41
               lol whoops(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 1/31 14:05:20




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