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Ah, so pickle lies, by putting words in my mouth in his

Posted on: January 31, 2018 at 14:23:38 CT
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typical, dishonest fashion... and this was after you had been warned to:

Check your premises, pickle. They are as twisted as you are(nm)
http://tigerboard.com/boards/view.php?message=15405646

So here you are committing another of your common logical fallacies, begging the question.

You are very much in the minority, because you are wrong, in asserting the premise that taxation = theft.

You are also very much in the minority, because you are wrong, in asserting the premise that capital punishment = murder.
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the board's thread-hijacker for abortion, a Christian fyi, - pickle MU - 1/31 13:56:52
     I didn't think you engaged with Jeff? - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 1/31 14:37:45
          I don't discuss issues with him (nm) - pickle MU - 1/31 15:02:49
               Then posting this thread is quite the cowardly act, no? (nm) - JeffB MU - 1/31 15:04:53
          Only when it suits him. He runs and hides from questions, - JeffB MU - 1/31 14:51:27
     Ah, so pickle lies, by putting words in my mouth in his - JeffB MU - 1/31 14:23:38
          Do you claim to be pro-life?(nm) - Danny Whizzbang USA - 1/31 14:46:15
               Yes. That does not mean that one cannot take the life of - JeffB MU - 1/31 14:48:39
                    So you aren't really pro-life. Thanks for the clarification(nm) - Danny Whizzbang USA - 1/31 15:45:43
                         So you want to redefine words, a lot like pickle, eh? (nm) - JeffB MU - 1/31 17:12:10
                              If you were pro-life, you would be anti-capital punishment - Danny Whizzbang USA - 1/31 18:20:08
                                   That is total BS. You are willing to be dishonest in order - JeffB MU - 2/1 13:07:23
                    Capital punishment is not self defense (nm) - pickle MU - 1/31 15:03:34
                         It can be in certain circumstances. Say for instance a poor - JeffB MU - 1/31 15:09:29
                              no, Jeff - pickle MU - 1/31 15:14:10
                                   So you're saying you can't refute Jeff's argument.(nm) - Alferd Packer MU - 1/31 15:30:12
          What about the US dropping bombs killing innocent - TigerMatt MU - 1/31 14:37:47
               If the target is of military value, then it is okay. - Alferd Packer MU - 1/31 15:36:30
               How about yourself, do you think war is inherently wrong? - JeffB MU - 1/31 14:46:23
                    Answer the question. - pickle MU - 1/31 14:47:40
                         Your hypocrisy is showing again pickle: - JeffB MU - 1/31 14:53:13
                              answer Matt's question, Jeff. (nm) - pickle MU - 1/31 14:58:41
                                   answer mine, hypocrite. (nm) - JeffB MU - 1/31 15:10:23
                                        this isn't about me, Jeff. Answer Matt's question (nm) - pickle MU - 1/31 15:14:49
                                             My question *was* an answer pickle, and your hypocrisy - JeffB MU - 1/31 15:31:39
                                                  no, your question was a dodge and dishonest (nm) - pickle MU - 1/31 15:46:51
                                                       No it was not. Ironic, though, that you, the #1 dodger on - JeffB MU - 1/31 17:16:14
          that's not what begging the question is, Jeff - pickle MU - 1/31 14:26:42
     You've also negated your long held position - mizzouSECedes STL - 1/31 14:15:23
          I've never said i wouldn't respond to his posts (nm) - pickle MU - 1/31 14:19:31
               ...just run and hide in cowardly fashion from my questions.(nm) - JeffB MU - 1/31 14:24:37
     His religious beliefs differ from your religious beliefs - Ferg STL - 1/31 14:13:03
          this isn't about religious beliefs - pickle MU - 1/31 14:14:21
               sure it is. You both have a religious dogma you - Ferg STL - 1/31 14:18:51
                    no, Ferg (nm) - pickle MU - 1/31 14:19:54
     It is ok for God to slaughter babies.(nm) - TigerMatt MU - 1/31 14:01:15
          Moreover, it's not inherently immoral for the state to - 90Tiger MU - 1/31 14:04:01
               Talk about straw man arguments... - JeffB MU - 1/31 14:45:29
               Execution of a convicted murderer is not the moral equivalen - Alferd Packer MU - 1/31 14:15:00
                    It is definitely the moral equivalent of murder - ummmm MU - 1/31 14:41:56
                         False premise. There are times when the execution of an - JeffB MU - 1/31 14:54:29
                              Jeff, you are ignorant of logic and logical fallacies - pickle MU - 1/31 14:59:32
                                   Your lack of a logical response is duly noted. (nm) - JeffB MU - 1/31 17:18:52
                              A person strapped to a gurney is not aggessing. (nm) - ummmm MU - 1/31 14:55:55
                                   But an aggressor is not always aggressing. Someone who - JeffB MU - 1/31 17:21:50
                                        LMFAO - pickle MU - 1/31 18:25:07
                                        What?? An aggressor is always aggressing. - ummmm MU - 1/31 17:43:05
                                   Jeff is going to twist and contort - pickle MU - 1/31 15:00:08
                    how about vigilantes murdering rapists? How about - 90Tiger MU - 1/31 14:17:16
                         Those are illegal activities. No equivalent in the least. - Alferd Packer MU - 1/31 14:37:14
                    It's murder, AP. (nm) - pickle MU - 1/31 14:15:36
                         Wrong.(nm) - Alferd Packer MU - 1/31 14:26:30
                              Then slavery wasn't slavery. Right? (nm) - pickle MU - 1/31 14:27:45
                                   The equivalent to your equating capital punishment with - Alferd Packer MU - 1/31 14:41:22
                                        pickle often does not think logically. (nm) - JeffB MU - 1/31 17:30:37
     well, you've managed to prove the obvious here, pickle - - 90Tiger MU - 1/31 14:00:34
     Pro-life and pro-death penalty - MrBlueSky MU - 1/31 13:58:10
          No, the hypocrisy is clearly on the side of the liberals - JeffB MU - 1/31 14:32:10
               LMFAO you're making the same argument, Jeff (nm) - pickle MU - 1/31 14:52:09
                    You seem to have difficulty with even the simplest of - JeffB MU - 1/31 17:33:20
               Are those juries always right? (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 1/31 14:49:07
                    RE: Are those juries always right? (nm) - Alferd Packer MU - 1/31 15:26:45
               but what if the criminals convicted of heinous crimes by - cnk ATL - 1/31 14:38:03
          So you're saying that executing a convicted murderer is - Alferd Packer MU - 1/31 14:11:28
               it's murder, it's immoral. "the same"? in the context of - 90Tiger MU - 1/31 14:15:35
                    All of those examples are equally immoral and illegal. - Alferd Packer MU - 1/31 14:46:53
                    No it is not at all! Your equivalencies make no sense. - DHighlander NWMSU - 1/31 14:26:44
                         It's murder, DH (nm) - pickle MU - 1/31 14:28:15
                              Suppose Adam holds a grudge against your brother. - Alferd Packer MU - 1/31 15:09:35
                                   there are many appropriate responses - pickle MU - 1/31 15:48:22
                                        Run and hide, pickles! - Alferd Packer MU - 1/31 15:51:27
                                             Grieving is one - pickle MU - 1/31 15:56:12
                                   RE: Suppose Adam holds a grudge against your brother. - cnk ATL - 1/31 15:13:03
                                        What? Sing some hack folk song? - Alferd Packer MU - 1/31 15:20:06
               both are murder. One is the state doing the murdering, the - hefeweizen MU - 1/31 14:15:15
                    No, they aren't. There is a distinction which honest people - Alferd Packer MU - 1/31 14:25:44
                         so, according to webster, capital punishment is - hefeweizen MU - 1/31 14:29:33
                              No. That isn't what Webster's says. - Alferd Packer MU - 1/31 14:53:54
                         how many people does it take to make murder not murder? (nm) - pickle MU - 1/31 14:28:45
                              How many pickles does it take to screw in a light bulb?(nm) - Alferd Packer MU - 1/31 14:55:00
                                   Answer the question - pickle MU - 1/31 15:48:57
                                        That was a serious question? - Alferd Packer MU - 1/31 15:52:43
                                             Yes, it is a very serious question - pickle MU - 1/31 15:56:52
               Yes, it is the exact same (nm) - pickle MU - 1/31 14:12:46
               "pro-life" - MrBlueSky MU - 1/31 14:11:58
                    All innocent life. - Alferd Packer MU - 1/31 14:56:25
                         The state has never executed innocent people? - MrBlueSky MU - 1/31 15:01:30
                              I suppose if the system isn't pristinely perfect then - Alferd Packer MU - 1/31 15:24:52
          That is because personal responsibility is something your - DHighlander NWMSU - 1/31 14:06:32
               then we should be murdering drunk drivers and smokers - 90Tiger MU - 1/31 14:18:47
                    In the law, there are different degrees of homicide. - Alferd Packer MU - 1/31 15:01:15
               Capital Punishment - The murder of a GUILTY (and sometimes - cnk ATL - 1/31 14:17:35
                    No. The EXECUTION of a guilty, unjustified murderer - Alferd Packer MU - 1/31 15:44:57
               Public safety - meatiger MU - 1/31 14:15:12
               How many people does it take to magically make murder - pickle MU - 1/31 14:13:42
                    How many morons does it take to dishonestly equate - Alferd Packer MU - 1/31 15:47:09
               People make public safety/health arguments in favor of - ummmm MU - 1/31 14:13:37
                    You can argue anything you wish, that does not make them - DHighlander NWMSU - 1/31 14:20:13
                         I'm just assessing the words you chose: "Public Safety" - ummmm MU - 1/31 14:26:54
                              No, you can attempt to validate anything. Something you are - DHighlander NWMSU - 1/31 14:28:02
                                   You realize that eugenic movements are premised on - ummmm MU - 1/31 14:29:55
                                   "No", but then you agree with him - pickle MU - 1/31 14:29:30
                                        Seriously. (nm) - ummmm MU - 1/31 14:30:08
                         Again, how many people does it take to magically transform - pickle MU - 1/31 14:24:45
                         Capital Punishment - The taking of guilty (and sometimes - cnk ATL - 1/31 14:21:06
               both are equally immoral and you're being shamefully - 90Tiger MU - 1/31 14:11:51
                    No, taking the life of someone who cannot abide by the laws - DHighlander NWMSU - 1/31 14:22:32
                         It's immoral - pickle MU - 1/31 14:41:08
               Is it murder to remove life support from someone unable - TigerMatt MU - 1/31 14:10:08
                    Is it murder if you have them make mom "comfortable" - hefeweizen MU - 1/31 14:12:11
                         I need a decoder ring for that sentence.(nm) - TigerMatt MU - 1/31 14:13:13
                              making mom "comfortable" is code for put her down - hefeweizen MU - 1/31 14:14:03
                                   did you name your labrador "mom"? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 1/31 14:19:36
                                        no, I called my mom, mom(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 1/31 14:20:27
                                        well, his mom definitely was a b1tch - cnk ATL - 1/31 14:20:09
                                             lol(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 1/31 14:20:41
          As opposed to pro-abortion, anti death penalty Dem-Libs? - Spanky KU - 1/31 14:03:24
               No one is pro-abortion spanky (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 1/31 14:07:40
                    You are 100% incorrect - Spanky KU - 1/31 14:18:31
                    then why do libs get so mad when one is prevented?(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 1/31 14:13:00
                         A woman seeking an abortion - MrBlueSky MU - 1/31 14:16:48
                              Do you think juries vote to condemn a killer to death - Spanky KU - 1/31 14:20:43
                              so it's premeditated (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 1/31 14:20:10
                              What's the difference - mizzouSECedes STL - 1/31 14:19:11
                                   there's not. (nm) - hefeweizen MU - 1/31 14:20:02
                              strawman. it is morally reprehensible just like all murders(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 1/31 14:18:41
               lol whoops(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 1/31 14:05:20




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