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Do you still believe what you said here in re: the question

Posted on: January 3, 2018 at 12:09:59 CT
JeffB MU
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"Defend a system of belief where masturbating in a park in front of children does not infringe any rights, but trying to stop the wanker does."

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pickle:

You don't understand the argument which is two-fold:

1. No rights are infringed upon at the sight of genitalia; no rights are infringed upon in seeing someone masturbate. To stop someone is to initiate force against one who is not using force himself, which would be a violation of the NAP and an infringement of rights.

2. under an anarcho-capitalist, or purely libertarian society, there is no public property; the property owner is well within his rights to allow or disallow people and/or behavior on his property, and is also justified in using force to stop someone from doing so. So this worry and handwringing and concern over masturbation is a non-issue. It is, in fact, an appeal to emotion.
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Because nobody could answer why 'Murica is great, masturbati - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 11:18:19
     pickle started a thread to call out hokie, I called out pick - JeffB MU - 1/3 12:00:29
          No. You made up a quote and attributed it to me. - pickle MU - 1/3 12:15:40
               The quote marks were intended to show your beliefs... - JeffB MU - 1/3 12:25:04
                    the quote marks were an intentional lie, Jeff (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 13:44:45
                         I already told you that they were not, and you are asserting - JeffB MU - 1/3 13:56:01
                    You lied, Jeff. Admit it (nm) - pickle MU - 1/3 12:34:59
                         No, I did not lie pickle. You are in your typical cowardly - JeffB MU - 1/3 12:40:12
                              You deliberately made up something I never said - pickle MU - 1/3 12:43:53
                                   No, pickle, lying is deliberately trying to deceive people. - JeffB MU - 1/3 12:51:02
                                        You're a pathetic little liar, Jeff (nm) - pickle MU - 1/3 12:58:07
                                             No pickle, you are the dishonest one as you have repeatedly - JeffB MU - 1/3 13:04:05
          you're a liar and you're dumb, Jeff. Sorry, but it's just a - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 12:01:17
               Then why do you refuse to answer the question à la - JeffB MU - 1/3 12:04:55
     I think its a way of.acknowledging that topic - Mizzou Lou KC - 1/3 11:27:35
     It's also a way to show the ugly flaws, beliefs of pickle. - RHAYWORTH MU - 1/3 11:22:48
          Natural rights don't cause problems - pickle MU - 1/3 11:47:31
               Do you still believe what you said here in re: the question - JeffB MU - 1/3 12:09:59
          Well, seems you whine about the "right to healthcare" and - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 11:31:03
               I wonder if RHAYWORTH would consider such government - ummmm MU - 1/3 11:31:49
          What are the horrendous problems caused by natural - ummmm MU - 1/3 11:27:24
               sigh. child rights, animal rights. - RHAYWORTH MU - 1/3 11:48:32
                    None of your wildly imagined scenarios were caused by - ummmm MU - 1/3 11:52:32
                         you still miss the entire point. Deliberately. - RHAYWORTH MU - 1/3 12:08:23
                              Please drop the straw man - pickle MU - 1/3 12:23:05
                                   Lol, I have, and that's why your upset. - RHAYWORTH MU - 1/3 12:28:02
                                        I'm not upset, RHAY. "Utopia" is a straw man - pickle MU - 1/3 12:36:17
                              RE: you still miss the entire point. Deliberately. - ummmm MU - 1/3 12:12:43
                              "society that has little or no ability to stop them"? - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 12:11:50
                                   Yeah, but - ummmm MU - 1/3 12:14:53
               The flaw is that govt was.created to regulate those - Mizzou Lou KC - 1/3 11:30:21
                    That doesn't even address the question (nm) - pickle MU - 1/3 11:50:02
                    That doesn't answer my question. - ummmm MU - 1/3 11:31:06
                         But it does - Mizzou Lou KC - 1/3 11:37:47
                              It doesn't. Go back and reread the question (nm) - pickle MU - 1/3 11:50:30
                              no lou, you're talking about anarchy v. people who think - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 11:43:50
                                   Wut? - Mizzou Lou KC - 1/3 12:01:25
                                        RE: Wut? - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 12:03:55
                                             No, you went off the tracks. - Mizzou Lou KC - 1/3 12:09:07
                                                  no lou. do you think I'm an anarchist? why can't gvmt - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 12:12:27
                                                       No, I don't think you are an anarchist, as you have stated - Mizzou Lou KC - 1/3 12:16:02
                                                            great, we agree (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 12:17:21
                              No, that doesn't answer my question. - ummmm MU - 1/3 11:42:00
                                   This is why you guys have are not taken seriously - Mizzou Lou KC - 1/3 11:44:17
                                        This isn't a high school debate. - ummmm MU - 1/3 11:46:36
                                             Apologies, lost cell. I answered the question as directly - Mizzou Lou KC - 1/3 11:59:06
                                                  No, the question was not directly answered. - ummmm MU - 1/3 12:11:40
                                                  so why do you mock natural rights? If gvmt was limited - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 12:03:18
                                                       Where? - Mizzou Lou KC - 1/3 12:13:00
                                                            Wow. "Freedom must be ceded" - pickle MU - 1/3 12:21:18
                                                            "some freedom must be ceded"? why? why can't gvmt - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 12:16:15
                                                            RE: Where? - ummmm MU - 1/3 12:15:46
                                                                 it's the men you cede the freedom to who are the - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 12:20:28
                                                                      They're taking 1/3 of our annual income to make sure - ummmm MU - 1/3 12:21:28
                                                                 What is your strategy of defending free, peaceful people - Mizzou Lou KC - 1/3 12:17:19
                                                                      What's your strategy for building your home appliances? (nm) - ummmm MU - 1/3 12:23:57
                                                                      Natural rights and free markets - ummmm MU - 1/3 12:20:47
                                                                           How he can't see the flaw in his reasoning is incredible - pickle MU - 1/3 12:26:09
                                                                                RE: How he can't see the flaw in his reasoning is incredible - ummmm MU - 1/3 12:27:55
                                                                                     Sadly, that's a perfect encapsulation in one word (nm) - pickle MU - 1/3 12:37:18
                                                                      the people defending you are the sociopaths, lou. again, - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 12:19:41
          Bingo! - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 1/3 11:24:00
               RE: Bingo! - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 11:28:17
                    The problems are caused by your pickles and umms zealous - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 1/3 11:31:04
                         what are the problems caused by natural rights? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 11:31:42
                              Are you ok witb State.Schools.teaching naturL rights? - Mizzou Lou KC - 1/3 11:42:00
                                   we have state schools precisely because we have allowed - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 11:52:30
                                        You didn't answer the very simple question - Mizzou Lou KC - 1/3 12:03:11
                                             I answered it here: - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 12:13:31
                                        I just don't understand why this is so controversial - ummmm MU - 1/3 11:57:53
                                   I don't want state schools at all, but if we're going to hav - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 11:48:07
                                   That would be a step in the right direction toward - ummmm MU - 1/3 11:42:34
                                        Ok, so incremental steps toward greater liberty are ok? - Mizzou Lou KC - 1/3 12:05:07
                                             of course (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 12:22:59
                                             Always. (nm) - ummmm MU - 1/3 12:08:48




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