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Posted on: January 3, 2018 at 11:28:15 CT
mizzouSECedes STL
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Do at their respective meetings? Tell others what to do. Decisions are made that decide the direction of the organization. There are also customs and traditions that you have to participate in (form of patriotism), and they also collect dues (form of taxation, albeit not by force).

Sounds like government to me.

Edited by mizzouSECedes at 11:29:05 on 01/03/18
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"Teaching patriotism is good." - hokie - pickle MU - 1/3 10:20:14
     better dead than red!(nm) - cnk ATL - 1/3 10:59:03
          That is a natural right(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 1/3 10:57:54
               Is that your belief, or your assertion that it is pickle's?(nm) - JeffB MU - 1/3 11:40:15
               Not a property right? It's your weiner, you should be able - Civil-E-Tiger MU - 1/3 11:11:50
               Pickle: Is masturbating in front of children a natural right - ummmm MU - 1/3 11:05:33
                    No, it's not a natural right per se (nm) - pickle MU - 1/3 11:19:37
                         But no one has a right to prevent you from masturbating - JeffB MU - 1/3 11:21:28
                    Yes - Mizzou Lou KC - 1/3 11:06:39
                         So standing on your side of the property line and - JeffB MU - 1/3 11:09:26
                              correct, you are not infringing on anyone's rights and - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 1/3 11:13:56
                              never stated it was your "natural right". he asked - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 11:13:32
                                   You are putting words in my mouth, 90, not very honest of - JeffB MU - 1/3 11:18:59
                                        you're an immoral liar, Jeff (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 11:20:22
                                             So you repeat your dishonest assertion and refuse to answer - JeffB MU - 1/3 11:22:52
                              I believe that sums up his claim, but i dont - Mizzou Lou KC - 1/3 11:12:09
                         I doubt that will be his answer. (nm) - ummmm MU - 1/3 11:07:33
               another liar surfaces - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 11:02:21
                    lol ^^^triggered disciple (nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 1/3 11:03:18
                         Pointing out a blatant lie isn't being triggered, Rags. Stop - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 11:06:56
               If parents don't what their kids to see masturbation, tough. - Tigrrrr! MU - 1/3 10:59:16
          Crapping in a park or public sidewalk in peachy--pickle(nm) - Tigrrrr! MU - 1/3 10:54:58
               I don't believe that at all, Tigrrr (nm) - pickle MU - 1/3 11:16:19
                    Could have fooled us. (nm) - Tigrrrr! MU - 1/3 11:26:09
                         Not to anyone of basic intelligence - pickle MU - 1/3 11:34:17
                              Look above....several folks know what a loon you are.(nm) - Tigrrrr! MU - 1/3 11:52:19
                                   Wrong, Tigrrr (nm) - pickle MU - 1/3 12:02:56
                                        Quit lying pickle. (nm) - JeffB MU - 1/3 12:11:09
          I can tell you have no response to the post and you're - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 10:53:39
               So what is the lie you believe I have stated 90? (nm) - JeffB MU - 1/3 10:54:58
                    When did pickle state this is "good", Jeff? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 10:57:30
                         You complain that 'I' have a reading problem, and yet here - JeffB MU - 1/3 11:05:31
                              Another lie. You made up a quote and attributed it to me - pickle MU - 1/3 11:15:19
                                   Do you disagree with that statement pickle? Here is your - JeffB MU - 1/3 11:29:25
                              RE: You complain that 'I' have a reading problem, and yet here - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 11:07:27
                                   Do you think that pickle believes people do not have a - JeffB MU - 1/3 11:11:43
                                        I know for a fact he doesn't believe they have "a right - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 11:14:14
                                             You can reword it per your own preferred philosophical - JeffB MU - 1/3 11:26:57
                    RE: So what is the lie you believe I have stated 90? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 10:56:16
                         If you believe that what I posted is a 'lie', that pickle - JeffB MU - 1/3 11:03:19
                              the freedom specifically to masturbate in front of children - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 11:08:37
                                   You are the dishonest one here 90, please answer the questio - JeffB MU - 1/3 11:13:41
                                        asked and answered, Jeff, your ignorance is limitless - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 11:14:42
                                             You are ignoring the followup question to your response - JeffB MU - 1/3 11:37:24
          you should be more tolerant of his religion - Ferg STL - 1/3 10:52:11
          I've never said that. Why do you lie, Jeff? (nm) - pickle MU - 1/3 10:50:47
               That's not a lie pickle, or do you truly believe that people - JeffB MU - 1/3 10:53:09
                    You attributed something to me that I've never said - pickle MU - 1/3 11:03:31
                         What do you believe that I have attributed to you that is - JeffB MU - 1/3 11:07:18
                              Goddamn you are dishonest - pickle MU - 1/3 11:27:07
                                   No, the dishonest one is you, pickle. Here is your quote: - JeffB MU - 1/3 11:39:09
                                        And now the red herring. You're dishonest and a liar - pickle MU - 1/3 12:00:14
                                             So your dishonest running and hiding will continue. (nm) - JeffB MU - 1/3 12:12:03
               Well, you sure have posted it alot. - RHAYWORTH MU - 1/3 10:52:09
                    I have? Link (nm) - pickle MU - 1/3 11:05:26
                    He's not only never called it a natural right, but has - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 10:57:11
                         He believes that it is good when people cannot be prevented - JeffB MU - 1/3 11:43:14
                         He's said it should be legal, like child porn possession. - RHAYWORTH MU - 1/3 11:06:53
                              more of you contriving (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 11:09:07
                                   More 90 dishonesty. (nm) - JeffB MU - 1/3 11:48:04
                              I don't believe he said that. - ummmm MU - 1/3 11:08:34
                                   & he believes that stopping someone from masturbating - JeffB MU - 1/3 11:52:09
                              I've never said it should be legal. Link to where I did (nm) - pickle MU - 1/3 11:07:39
                                   There are 2 options, legal or illegal. Which do you think it - JeffB MU - 1/3 11:49:10
     You are confused about the definition of patriotism - Spanky KU - 1/3 10:28:15
          I am? (nm) - pickle MU - 1/3 10:51:01
               Yes. You seem to think patriotism = blind loyalty - Spanky KU - 1/3 11:04:11
                    "Yes" then "you seem..." - pickle MU - 1/3 11:06:58
                         Your inability to comprehend English is legendary - Spanky KU - 1/3 11:15:09
          And this "attachment" is something State schools need to - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 10:43:21
               What do you think 'state schools' should teach? - Spanky KU - 1/3 10:48:46
                    Loyalty and allegiance to the State (nm) - pickle MU - 1/3 10:51:42
                         It is so obvious. (nm) - ummmm MU - 1/3 10:54:37
                    LOL, how about we start with reading, dude? (nm) - Evenflow MU - 1/3 10:51:18
                         Wouldn't that be nice... then math and science - Spanky KU - 1/3 11:05:10
                    Nothing. I think state schools shouldn't exist and this is - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 10:51:15
                         So this is a rabbit hole conversation with you - Spanky KU - 1/3 11:06:23
                              "free education" =/= "state education" - there isn't - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 11:10:12
          Why does that need to be taught? (nm) - ummmm MU - 1/3 10:34:40
               Because it foments a common defense of society/values. - Spanky KU - 1/3 10:42:59
                    Why should one be loyal to one's clan/tribe over others?(nm) - cnk ATL - 1/3 11:01:19
                    I don't fear it. But I don't like the idea of teaching a - ummmm MU - 1/3 10:51:04
                    Prehistoric man didn't teach their young about loyalty to - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 10:44:35
                         Well - pickle MU - 1/3 10:56:56
                              I'm operating on an apparently inaccurate definition of - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 10:59:20
                         What did I say about prehistoric man? - Spanky KU - 1/3 10:47:21
                              Incorrect (nm) - pickle MU - 1/3 10:57:12
                              and no, clan leadership isn't gvmt, spanky. It isn't - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 10:52:49
                                   Please explain (nm) - mizzouSECedes STL - 1/3 11:17:28
                                   It is EXACTLY like a government - Spanky KU - 1/3 11:07:56
                                        It isn't (nm) - pickle MU - 1/3 11:20:19
                                        is an HoA government? the Elks? the Masons? the Union - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 11:19:46
                                             What do you think leaders of those organizations - mizzouSECedes STL - 1/3 11:28:15
                                                  So they are governments? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 11:28:49
                                                       Why wouldn't they be? (nm) - mizzouSECedes STL - 1/3 11:32:46
                                                            For one, they are voluntary organizations - pickle MU - 1/3 11:36:21
                                                                 An HOA has physical boundaries and anyone within those - JeffB MU - 1/3 11:57:07
                                                                 Being in the United States is voluntary as well - mizzouSECedes STL - 1/3 11:38:53
                                                                      Incorrect - pickle MU - 1/3 12:01:16
                                                                           Are we discussing citizenship? - mizzouSECedes STL - 1/3 12:48:50
                              RE: What did I say about prehistoric man? - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 10:51:49
          no he is just a zealot, he believes all states are evil - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 1/3 10:31:16
     RE: "Teaching patriotism is good." - hokie - SwampTiger MU - 1/3 10:25:44
          such a great piece and well delivered. (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 10:32:26
          Somalia is the greatest country now(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 1/3 10:26:11
               Somalia everywhere is the goal of Pickle - mu7176grad MU - 1/3 10:33:08




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