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Because it foments a common defense of society/values.

Posted on: January 3, 2018 at 10:42:59 CT
Spanky KU
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Beginning with prehistoric man teaching their young about loyalty and customs of family and clan/tribe.... That continued throughout time and expanded to city.. then county.. then state...then country.

Why do you fear it?
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"Teaching patriotism is good." - hokie - pickle MU - 1/3 10:20:14
     better dead than red!(nm) - cnk ATL - 1/3 10:59:03
     freedom 2 masturbate in front of children is good. -pickle* - JeffB MU - 1/3 10:48:39
          That is a natural right(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 1/3 10:57:54
               Is that your belief, or your assertion that it is pickle's?(nm) - JeffB MU - 1/3 11:40:15
               Not a property right? It's your weiner, you should be able - Civil-E-Tiger MU - 1/3 11:11:50
               Pickle: Is masturbating in front of children a natural right - ummmm MU - 1/3 11:05:33
                    No, it's not a natural right per se (nm) - pickle MU - 1/3 11:19:37
                         But no one has a right to prevent you from masturbating - JeffB MU - 1/3 11:21:28
                    Yes - Mizzou Lou KC - 1/3 11:06:39
                         So standing on your side of the property line and - JeffB MU - 1/3 11:09:26
                              correct, you are not infringing on anyone's rights and - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 1/3 11:13:56
                              never stated it was your "natural right". he asked - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 11:13:32
                                   You are putting words in my mouth, 90, not very honest of - JeffB MU - 1/3 11:18:59
                                        you're an immoral liar, Jeff (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 11:20:22
                                             So you repeat your dishonest assertion and refuse to answer - JeffB MU - 1/3 11:22:52
                              I believe that sums up his claim, but i dont - Mizzou Lou KC - 1/3 11:12:09
                         I doubt that will be his answer. (nm) - ummmm MU - 1/3 11:07:33
               another liar surfaces - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 11:02:21
                    lol ^^^triggered disciple (nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 1/3 11:03:18
                         Pointing out a blatant lie isn't being triggered, Rags. Stop - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 11:06:56
               If parents don't what their kids to see masturbation, tough. - Tigrrrr! MU - 1/3 10:59:16
          Crapping in a park or public sidewalk in peachy--pickle(nm) - Tigrrrr! MU - 1/3 10:54:58
               I don't believe that at all, Tigrrr (nm) - pickle MU - 1/3 11:16:19
                    Could have fooled us. (nm) - Tigrrrr! MU - 1/3 11:26:09
                         Not to anyone of basic intelligence - pickle MU - 1/3 11:34:17
                              Look above....several folks know what a loon you are.(nm) - Tigrrrr! MU - 1/3 11:52:19
                                   Wrong, Tigrrr (nm) - pickle MU - 1/3 12:02:56
                                        Quit lying pickle. (nm) - JeffB MU - 1/3 12:11:09
          I can tell you have no response to the post and you're - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 10:53:39
               So what is the lie you believe I have stated 90? (nm) - JeffB MU - 1/3 10:54:58
                    When did pickle state this is "good", Jeff? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 10:57:30
                         You complain that 'I' have a reading problem, and yet here - JeffB MU - 1/3 11:05:31
                              Another lie. You made up a quote and attributed it to me - pickle MU - 1/3 11:15:19
                                   Do you disagree with that statement pickle? Here is your - JeffB MU - 1/3 11:29:25
                              RE: You complain that 'I' have a reading problem, and yet here - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 11:07:27
                                   Do you think that pickle believes people do not have a - JeffB MU - 1/3 11:11:43
                                        I know for a fact he doesn't believe they have "a right - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 11:14:14
                                             You can reword it per your own preferred philosophical - JeffB MU - 1/3 11:26:57
                    RE: So what is the lie you believe I have stated 90? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 10:56:16
                         If you believe that what I posted is a 'lie', that pickle - JeffB MU - 1/3 11:03:19
                              the freedom specifically to masturbate in front of children - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 11:08:37
                                   You are the dishonest one here 90, please answer the questio - JeffB MU - 1/3 11:13:41
                                        asked and answered, Jeff, your ignorance is limitless - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 11:14:42
                                             You are ignoring the followup question to your response - JeffB MU - 1/3 11:37:24
          you should be more tolerant of his religion - Ferg STL - 1/3 10:52:11
          I've never said that. Why do you lie, Jeff? (nm) - pickle MU - 1/3 10:50:47
               That's not a lie pickle, or do you truly believe that people - JeffB MU - 1/3 10:53:09
                    You attributed something to me that I've never said - pickle MU - 1/3 11:03:31
                         What do you believe that I have attributed to you that is - JeffB MU - 1/3 11:07:18
                              Goddamn you are dishonest - pickle MU - 1/3 11:27:07
                                   No, the dishonest one is you, pickle. Here is your quote: - JeffB MU - 1/3 11:39:09
                                        And now the red herring. You're dishonest and a liar - pickle MU - 1/3 12:00:14
                                             So your dishonest running and hiding will continue. (nm) - JeffB MU - 1/3 12:12:03
               Well, you sure have posted it alot. - RHAYWORTH MU - 1/3 10:52:09
                    I have? Link (nm) - pickle MU - 1/3 11:05:26
                    He's not only never called it a natural right, but has - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 10:57:11
                         He believes that it is good when people cannot be prevented - JeffB MU - 1/3 11:43:14
                         He's said it should be legal, like child porn possession. - RHAYWORTH MU - 1/3 11:06:53
                              more of you contriving (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 11:09:07
                                   More 90 dishonesty. (nm) - JeffB MU - 1/3 11:48:04
                              I don't believe he said that. - ummmm MU - 1/3 11:08:34
                                   & he believes that stopping someone from masturbating - JeffB MU - 1/3 11:52:09
                              I've never said it should be legal. Link to where I did (nm) - pickle MU - 1/3 11:07:39
                                   There are 2 options, legal or illegal. Which do you think it - JeffB MU - 1/3 11:49:10
     You are confused about the definition of patriotism - Spanky KU - 1/3 10:28:15
          I am? (nm) - pickle MU - 1/3 10:51:01
               Yes. You seem to think patriotism = blind loyalty - Spanky KU - 1/3 11:04:11
                    "Yes" then "you seem..." - pickle MU - 1/3 11:06:58
                         Your inability to comprehend English is legendary - Spanky KU - 1/3 11:15:09
          And this "attachment" is something State schools need to - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 10:43:21
               What do you think 'state schools' should teach? - Spanky KU - 1/3 10:48:46
                    Loyalty and allegiance to the State (nm) - pickle MU - 1/3 10:51:42
                         It is so obvious. (nm) - ummmm MU - 1/3 10:54:37
                    LOL, how about we start with reading, dude? (nm) - Evenflow MU - 1/3 10:51:18
                         Wouldn't that be nice... then math and science - Spanky KU - 1/3 11:05:10
                    Nothing. I think state schools shouldn't exist and this is - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 10:51:15
                         So this is a rabbit hole conversation with you - Spanky KU - 1/3 11:06:23
                              "free education" =/= "state education" - there isn't - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 11:10:12
          Why does that need to be taught? (nm) - ummmm MU - 1/3 10:34:40
               Because it foments a common defense of society/values. - Spanky KU - 1/3 10:42:59
                    Why should one be loyal to one's clan/tribe over others?(nm) - cnk ATL - 1/3 11:01:19
                    I don't fear it. But I don't like the idea of teaching a - ummmm MU - 1/3 10:51:04
                    Prehistoric man didn't teach their young about loyalty to - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 10:44:35
                         Well - pickle MU - 1/3 10:56:56
                              I'm operating on an apparently inaccurate definition of - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 10:59:20
                         What did I say about prehistoric man? - Spanky KU - 1/3 10:47:21
                              Incorrect (nm) - pickle MU - 1/3 10:57:12
                              and no, clan leadership isn't gvmt, spanky. It isn't - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 10:52:49
                                   Please explain (nm) - mizzouSECedes STL - 1/3 11:17:28
                                   It is EXACTLY like a government - Spanky KU - 1/3 11:07:56
                                        It isn't (nm) - pickle MU - 1/3 11:20:19
                                        is an HoA government? the Elks? the Masons? the Union - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 11:19:46
                                             What do you think leaders of those organizations - mizzouSECedes STL - 1/3 11:28:15
                                                  So they are governments? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 11:28:49
                                                       Why wouldn't they be? (nm) - mizzouSECedes STL - 1/3 11:32:46
                                                            For one, they are voluntary organizations - pickle MU - 1/3 11:36:21
                                                                 An HOA has physical boundaries and anyone within those - JeffB MU - 1/3 11:57:07
                                                                 Being in the United States is voluntary as well - mizzouSECedes STL - 1/3 11:38:53
                                                                      Incorrect - pickle MU - 1/3 12:01:16
                                                                           Are we discussing citizenship? - mizzouSECedes STL - 1/3 12:48:50
                              RE: What did I say about prehistoric man? - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 10:51:49
          no he is just a zealot, he believes all states are evil - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 1/3 10:31:16
     RE: "Teaching patriotism is good." - hokie - SwampTiger MU - 1/3 10:25:44
          such a great piece and well delivered. (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 10:32:26
          Somalia is the greatest country now(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 1/3 10:26:11
               Somalia everywhere is the goal of Pickle - mu7176grad MU - 1/3 10:33:08




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