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That's a great philosophical question (the very basis for

Posted on: December 18, 2017 at 12:08:17 CT

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pickle's ongoing mantra against citizenship), but that's not at issue in understanding the original intent of the 14th Amendment (i.e. before SCOTUS started to unconstitutionally interpret it).

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Question for Ummmm re 14th amendment. - hokie VT - 12/18 11:44:01

Let's change the context: A very wealthy German family visi - 90Tiger MU - 12/18 12:01:35

I believe the kraut is an american. Based on 14. nm - hokie VT - 12/18 12:03:46

Lmfao (nm) - pickle MU

- 12/18 12:18:27

Sucks for that baby, he will be tracked down to have money - ummmm MU - 12/18 12:12:54

good thing there isn't a draft. little fella would go back - 90Tiger MU - 12/18 12:17:53

You can't possibly actually believe that. It perfectly - 90Tiger MU - 12/18 12:08:12

Is the child not under the jurisdiction of the US and - hokie VT - 12/18 12:11:27

No, the child isn't "under the jurisdiction of" the US nor - 90Tiger MU - 12/18 12:13:12

Jurisdiction defined: - hokie VT - 12/18 12:19:51

RE: Jurisdiction defined: - 90Tiger MU - 12/18 12:32:31

Lol (nm) - pickle MU

- 12/18 12:23:24

"and subject to the jurisdiction thereof" - 90Tiger MU - 12/18 11:57:38

RE: Question for Ummmm re 14th amendment. - ummmm MU - 12/18 11:53:20

Your best post ever. That we ignore this law and - GA Tiger MU - 12/18 12:02:38

GAT, both ummmm and I have discussed this exact topic - pickle MU

- 12/18 12:04:36

Of course the discussion is irrelevant in your anarchistic - JeffB MU

- 12/18 12:21:30

RE: GAT, both ummmm and I have discussed this exact topic - ummmm MU - 12/18 12:06:20

Yep and I was wrong. I changed my mind on it.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 12/18 12:12:37

I wasn't mocking you. Glad you've come around on that. (nm) - ummmm MU - 12/18 12:13:14

lmfao (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/18 12:08:56

WADR, that is his interpretation. With which i - hokie VT - 12/18 12:02:26

RE: WADR, that is his interpretation. With which i - 90Tiger MU - 12/18 12:03:57

How does an infant owe allegiance to anyone? nm - hokie VT - 12/18 12:05:02

if that's your position, how are you a US citizen at birth?? - 90Tiger MU - 12/18 12:10:43

Well "sport" you can renounce your citizenship. It is your - hokie VT - 12/18 12:13:07

again - how are you a citizen since at birth you couldn't - 90Tiger MU - 12/18 12:32:03

So, you're not a citizen of any country, since you can't - hokie VT - 12/18 12:48:13

they were your words, hokie, not mine. You tell me. I - 90Tiger MU - 12/18 12:51:10

Answer the question (nm) - pickle MU

- 12/18 12:25:16

lol, ok hokie, good discourse, glad you read what yo - 90Tiger MU - 12/18 12:14:31

Newsflash: no one owes allegiance to any gvmt or State - pickle MU

- 12/18 12:09:53

That's a great philosophical question (the very basis for - ummmm MU - 12/18 12:08:17

If SCOTUS intended to write "freedom of speech except on - hokie VT - 12/18 12:17:23

I have no idea what this question means. - ummmm MU - 12/18 12:22:49

Should we enforce what the writers WROTE, or what - hokie VT - 12/18 12:33:15

What the writers of the amendment "intended" - ummmm MU - 12/18 12:34:12

And who knows what they intended is different - hokie VT - 12/18 12:50:14

the guy who wrote it told you in the piece, start there (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/18 12:52:34

RE: WADR, that is his interpretation. With which i - 90Tiger MU - 12/18 12:03:07

Good grief (nm) - pickle MU

- 12/18 12:03:00

Willful and permanent ignorance (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/18 12:04:16

It's pathetic. - pickle MU

- 12/18 12:08:27

Right. It was distinguishing former slaves from Am. Indians - pickle MU

- 12/18 12:01:05

ANCHOR BABIES (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 12/18 11:46:24