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Posted on: December 18, 2017 at 12:01:35 CT
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ts the US for a couple of weeks "on holiday". Woman is 7+ months pregnant, but they plan to be back in Germany long before the baby is born.

Lo and behold, the walk around Disney World brings on early labor and the child arrives in an Orlando hospital.

Is the baby a United States citizen, based on the 14th Amendment?

Answer: No, and neither is the child of an impoverished Guatamalan female citizen who plans to and has a child in the US after entering without authorization.

Both women are citizens of their respective countries of origin and subject to their jurisdiction, not that of the US.

Why isn't the German child automatically a US citizen?
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Question for Ummmm re 14th amendment. - hokie VT - 12/18 11:44:01
     Let's change the context: A very wealthy German family visi - 90Tiger MU - 12/18 12:01:35
          I believe the kraut is an american. Based on 14. nm - hokie VT - 12/18 12:03:46
               Lmfao (nm) - pickle MU - 12/18 12:18:27
               Sucks for that baby, he will be tracked down to have money - ummmm MU - 12/18 12:12:54
                    good thing there isn't a draft. little fella would go back - 90Tiger MU - 12/18 12:17:53
               You can't possibly actually believe that. It perfectly - 90Tiger MU - 12/18 12:08:12
                    Is the child not under the jurisdiction of the US and - hokie VT - 12/18 12:11:27
                         No, the child isn't "under the jurisdiction of" the US nor - 90Tiger MU - 12/18 12:13:12
                              Jurisdiction defined: - hokie VT - 12/18 12:19:51
                                   RE: Jurisdiction defined: - 90Tiger MU - 12/18 12:32:31
                                   Lol (nm) - pickle MU - 12/18 12:23:24
     "and subject to the jurisdiction thereof" - 90Tiger MU - 12/18 11:57:38
     RE: Question for Ummmm re 14th amendment. - ummmm MU - 12/18 11:53:20
          Your best post ever. That we ignore this law and - GA Tiger MU - 12/18 12:02:38
               GAT, both ummmm and I have discussed this exact topic - pickle MU - 12/18 12:04:36
                    Of course the discussion is irrelevant in your anarchistic - JeffB MU - 12/18 12:21:30
                    RE: GAT, both ummmm and I have discussed this exact topic - ummmm MU - 12/18 12:06:20
                         Yep and I was wrong. I changed my mind on it.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 12/18 12:12:37
                              I wasn't mocking you. Glad you've come around on that. (nm) - ummmm MU - 12/18 12:13:14
                         lmfao (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/18 12:08:56
          WADR, that is his interpretation. With which i - hokie VT - 12/18 12:02:26
               RE: WADR, that is his interpretation. With which i - 90Tiger MU - 12/18 12:03:57
                    How does an infant owe allegiance to anyone? nm - hokie VT - 12/18 12:05:02
                         if that's your position, how are you a US citizen at birth?? - 90Tiger MU - 12/18 12:10:43
                              Well "sport" you can renounce your citizenship. It is your - hokie VT - 12/18 12:13:07
                                   again - how are you a citizen since at birth you couldn't - 90Tiger MU - 12/18 12:32:03
                                        So, you're not a citizen of any country, since you can't - hokie VT - 12/18 12:48:13
                                             they were your words, hokie, not mine. You tell me. I - 90Tiger MU - 12/18 12:51:10
                                   Answer the question (nm) - pickle MU - 12/18 12:25:16
                                   lol, ok hokie, good discourse, glad you read what yo - 90Tiger MU - 12/18 12:14:31
                         Newsflash: no one owes allegiance to any gvmt or State - pickle MU - 12/18 12:09:53
                         That's a great philosophical question (the very basis for - ummmm MU - 12/18 12:08:17
                              If SCOTUS intended to write "freedom of speech except on - hokie VT - 12/18 12:17:23
                                   I have no idea what this question means. - ummmm MU - 12/18 12:22:49
                                        Should we enforce what the writers WROTE, or what - hokie VT - 12/18 12:33:15
                                             What the writers of the amendment "intended" - ummmm MU - 12/18 12:34:12
                                                  And who knows what they intended is different - hokie VT - 12/18 12:50:14
                                                       the guy who wrote it told you in the piece, start there (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/18 12:52:34
               RE: WADR, that is his interpretation. With which i - 90Tiger MU - 12/18 12:03:07
               Good grief (nm) - pickle MU - 12/18 12:03:00
                    Willful and permanent ignorance (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/18 12:04:16
                         It's pathetic. - pickle MU - 12/18 12:08:27
          Right. It was distinguishing former slaves from Am. Indians - pickle MU - 12/18 12:01:05
     ANCHOR BABIES (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 12/18 11:46:24




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