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Why didn't Mueller charge him with anything other than lying

Posted on: December 5, 2017 at 15:09:26 CT
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to the FBI?

Former Assistant District Attorney for the Southern District of New York had this to say:

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/454311/mueller-strategy-obstruction-justice-investigation-leading-impeachment

Many analysts are under the misimpression that it is typical for federal prosecutors to accept guilty pleas on minor charges in exchange for cooperation that helps build a case on major charges. From this flawed premise, they reason that Mueller is methodically constructing a major case on Trump by accepting minor guilty pleas from Michael Flynn and George Papadopoulos for making false statements, and by indicting Paul Manafort and an associate on charges that have nothing to do with Trump or the 2016 election.

That is simply not how it works, strategically or legally.

As I’ve tried to explain a few times now (see here and here), if a prosecutor has an accomplice cooperator who gives the government incriminating information about the major scheme under investigation, he pressures the accomplice to plead guilty to the major scheme, not to an ancillary process crime — and particularly not to false-statements charges.

Strategically, and for public-relations purposes (which are not inconsequential in a high-profile corruption investigation, just ask Ken Starr), a guilty plea to the major scheme under investigation proves that the major scheme really happened — here, some kind of criminal collusion (i.e., conspiracy) in Russia’s espionage operation against the 2016 election. The guilty-plea allocution, in which the accomplice explains to the court what he and others did to carry out the scheme, puts enormous pressure on other accomplices to come forward and cooperate. In a political corruption case, it can drive public officials out of office.

Justice Department policy calls for prosecutors to indict a defendant on the most serious readily provable charge, not to plead out a case on minor charges to obtain cooperation. The federal sentencing guidelines also encourage this. They allow a judge to sentence the defendant below the often harsh guidelines calculation. This can mean a cooperator gets as little as zero jail time or time-served, no matter how serious the charges. This sentencing leniency happens only if the defendant pleads guilty and provides substantial assistance to the government’s investigation. That is what enables the prosecutor to entice an accomplice to cooperate; the prosecutor does not need to entice cooperation by pleading the case out for a song.

The practice of pressuring a guilty plea to the major charges makes the accomplice a formidable witness at trial. The jury will know that he is facing a potential sentence of perhaps decades in prison unless he discloses everything he knows and tells the truth in his testimony. That is what triggers the prosecutor’s obligation to file the motion that allows the court to sentence under the guidelines-recommended sentence.

Trading a plea on minor charges for cooperation is a foolish gambit that badly damages the prosecutor’s case. It suggests that the cooperator must not have disclosed details about the major scheme. Otherwise the prosecutor would have charged him with it. It implies that the prosecutor is so desperate to make a case on a major target that he gave bad actors a pass on serious charges — something experienced prosecutors know that juries hate.

It is even worse to plead accomplices out on false-statements counts. This establishes that the main thing the jury should know about the accomplice is that he is not to be trusted. That is not how you make someone a strong witness. And unlike the accomplice who pleads guilty to the major scheme, an accomplice who pleads guilty to false statements is looking at a maximum sentence of just five years and a more likely sentence of no time even before he has cooperated — not much of an incentive to disclose everything and tell the truth. A good prosecutor does not front-load the benefits of cooperation; he makes the accomplice earn sentencing leniency by full disclosure and testimony.

Bottom line: If the FBI had a collusion case of some kind, after well over a year of intensive investigation, Flynn and Papadopoulos would have been pressured to plead guilty to very serious charges — and those serious offenses would be reflected in the charges lodged against Manafort. Obviously, the pleas and the indictment have nothing to do with collusion because Mueller has no collusion case.

Edited by JeffB at 15:11:44 on 12/05/17
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     RE: Why has Mueller flipped 2 witnesses and got them to - MOCO SON MU - 12/5 15:42:43
     DEEP STATE!!!!(nm) - playhard NWMSU - 12/5 15:11:57
     The investigation is obviously going to take a while but - kcnorthside MU - 12/5 14:53:57
          Go down for what? - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 12/5 14:56:36
               No he didn't goldberg - JayHoaxH8r MU - 12/5 15:00:22
                    Then why did he fire him, raghead?(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 12/5 15:02:55
          This is the playbook for you guys, duh (nm) - MUGuy2004 STL - 12/5 14:54:39
     It's pretty simple really. - limenats MU - 12/5 14:38:01
          So the election was stolen-when does Mueller name Hill Prez - mu7176grad MU - 12/5 14:56:38
               How would you be reacting to this situation if Hillary - limenats MU - 12/5 15:17:11
                    I don't like Trump but hate the media and Wash Dems more - mu7176grad MU - 12/5 15:54:23
                    No you dont. In fact Hilary did engage in collusion - tman KC - 12/5 15:54:11
                         If that's the case. She should be charged. - limenats MU - 12/5 16:01:51
                              Good. Your first consistent position. Try it more often(nm) - tman KC - 12/5 16:06:25
                                   That she hasn't been charged and isn't under investigation - limenats MU - 12/5 16:10:07
          Cahoots to do WHAT? You useless clowns still - GA Tiger MU - 12/5 14:51:41
               Russian help in the election for lifting of sanctions. - limenats MU - 12/5 16:23:34
                    Know anybody who changed their vote to Trump for - GA Tiger MU - 12/5 16:52:56
                         Do you think there were any Bernie supporters who stayed - limenats MU - 12/5 17:01:47
                              Then blame shltlery for what happened to bernie. - GA Tiger MU - 12/5 19:10:43
          RE: It's pretty simple really. - mizzoumurfkc MU - 12/5 14:42:23
          Yeah! Just prove it.....*crickets*(nm) - MUGuy2004 STL - 12/5 14:38:48
               RE: Yeah! Just prove it.....*crickets*(nm) - limenats MU - 12/5 14:41:18
                    When did he do that? Am I missing something here or - tcat UMKC - 12/5 15:13:35
                         He said in the Lester Holt interview he fired Comey because - limenats MU - 12/5 15:28:39
                    Where's the indictment if he admitted it? (nm) - MUGuy2004 STL - 12/5 14:47:22
                         The case is still being built. - limenats MU - 12/5 15:12:37
                              So, no indictment(nm) - MUGuy2004 STL - 12/5 15:28:05
                                   You know what a sealed indictment is? - limenats MU - 12/5 15:29:44
                                        So, no indictment (nm) - MUGuy2004 STL - 12/5 15:31:19
                                             Define indictment. - limenats MU - 12/5 15:33:29
                                                  Poor thing, you don't know what you're talking about - MUGuy2004 STL - 12/5 15:34:24
                                                       So you don't know what an indictment is? - limenats MU - 12/5 15:36:07
                                                            I just revised my post, so you can know too (nm) - MUGuy2004 STL - 12/5 15:37:16
                                                                 Correct. An indictment is a written accusation. - limenats MU - 12/5 16:08:03
     Why has noone named Trump been indicted? Isn't that - MUGuy2004 STL - 12/5 14:33:02
          No, that actually isn't the reason for these investigations. - catbirdseat MU - 12/5 14:35:25
               2 process charges and indictments against Manafort and - MUTGR MU - 12/5 14:54:18
               Russia Collusion...stop making things up(nm) - MUGuy2004 STL - 12/5 14:36:31
     Wild guess - they harassed and intimidated the folks in - Evenflow MU - 12/5 14:30:02
          Interesting theory - Silas MU - 12/5 14:31:25
     "He made his living fliping crime boss family members" - catbirdseat MU - 12/5 14:29:35
     No-one has 'flipped' - Spanky KU - 12/5 14:27:48
          You don't know that. It sounds bold and knowledgeable to - Toger STL - 12/5 14:56:37
               It sounds bold and knowledgeable to assert that anyone - Spanky KU - 12/5 15:12:20
                    Silas kicks your ass solo quite easily. - Toger STL - 12/5 15:24:09
                         Don't make me laugh...Silas can't even beat his own - Spanky KU - 12/5 16:06:18
     Flynn got a slap on the wrist but spent $1m on legal - MUTGR MU - 12/5 14:26:58
          why did Mueller give him such a good package deal? - Silas MU - 12/5 14:30:03
               Why didn't Mueller charge him with anything other than lying - JeffB MU - 12/5 15:09:26
               You obviously aren't aware of the good cop vs bad - MUGuy2004 STL - 12/5 14:33:56
               When federal prosecutors flip lower level participants in a - MUTGR MU - 12/5 14:32:30
                    he's making deals - JayHoaxH8r MU - 12/5 14:46:29
                         He's moving on. nm. - MUTGR MU - 12/5 14:50:46
                              RE: He's moving up - JayHoaxH8r MU - 12/5 14:54:21
                    I wonder why? - Silas MU - 12/5 14:37:45
                         RE: I wonder why? - MUTGR MU - 12/5 14:40:12
                              LOL(nm) - MUGuy2004 STL - 12/5 14:40:46
                         Your guy is failing...7 million dollars and only this? (nm) - MUGuy2004 STL - 12/5 14:38:15
               Because he couldn't prove anything else? - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 12/5 14:31:45
                    He can go back and charge people with lots of other - catbirdseat MU - 12/5 14:34:20
                         yeah but if he does that to Flynn he looks unorganized - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 12/5 14:41:43
                              No he doesn't. Trump can't pardon - catbirdseat MU - 12/5 14:44:05
                                   No, you are milking "Appearance" , but people aren't falling - MUGuy2004 STL - 12/5 14:56:03
                                        This is a pick 6 for a game winning touchdown. - catbirdseat MU - 12/5 14:57:32
                         Except anyone named Clinton(nm) - MUGuy2004 STL - 12/5 14:35:48




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