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Posted on: November 30, 2017 at 12:06:27 CT
Ragnar Danneskjold MU
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If Humans never existed the phenomena those equations would still exist in the universe.

If Humans never existed, "natural rights" would never exist either as it does not describe an objective, observable recreatable phenomena.

Not only is there no objective proof behind the idea of "natural rights" being anything other than a belief, in the scope of human history it would be a anomaly which is why you have never seen a successful anarchic civilization grow beyond the tribe level.
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who agrees with Rags here? - 90Tiger MU - 11/30 11:03:29
     He's merely point out that your utopia doesn't work. - RHAYWORTH MU - 11/30 11:28:58
          Utopia is a straw man. You're being lazy at best (nm) - pickle MU - 11/30 11:51:45
          Right to life, liberty - 90Tiger MU - 11/30 11:34:03
               Not playing your stupid game, in which you avoid my point. - RHAYWORTH MU - 11/30 11:47:02
                    Game? I think you're the one playing some kind of game - 90Tiger MU - 11/30 11:54:20
                         Sorry, I'm just not in mood to indulge picketopia fantasy - RHAYWORTH MU - 11/30 12:14:41
                              pickle didn't invent natural rights. you're not arguing - 90Tiger MU - 11/30 12:19:57
                         He's avoiding everything, especially himself (nm) - pickle MU - 11/30 12:03:57
                    Remember when you called yourself a libertarian? (nm) - pickle MU - 11/30 11:52:22
     Lol(nm) - TheWildcat STL - 11/30 11:25:13
     RE: who agrees with Rags here? - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 11/30 11:21:22
          So you're pro abortion(nm) - tigerdb MU - 11/30 11:59:43
          dying isn't an infringement upon your right to life, rags an - 90Tiger MU - 11/30 11:35:25
               as I clearly stated I "believe" a person has those rights - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 11/30 11:41:06
                    Okay, then the next time the "loot boots" are put on. - ummmm MU - 11/30 11:44:59
                         Ouch. Completely destroyed (nm) - pickle MU - 11/30 11:54:45
                              lol(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 11/30 12:00:08
                         that doesn't make any sense, yes they do have different - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 11/30 11:48:16
                              I'm drawing a distinction between logic and reason as - ummmm MU - 11/30 11:50:52
                                   no you aren't(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 11/30 11:52:30
                                        Is stealing wrong? If so, why? (nm) - ummmm MU - 11/30 11:59:56
                                             Because some humans believe it is(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 11/30 12:09:55
                                                  But what is wrong about it? Why is that specific act - ummmm MU - 11/30 12:33:16
                                                  RE: Because some humans believe it is(nm) - pickle MU - 11/30 12:23:21
                    nothing universal about them other than the reality that - 90Tiger MU - 11/30 11:44:51
                         lol you don't know much about history do you? - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 11/30 11:47:15
                              Civilizations do not commit murder, rape, etc. (nm) - pickle MU - 11/30 12:05:12
                              I'm keenly aware of history and you example is awesome - - 90Tiger MU - 11/30 11:53:38
                                   lol at the time they were committing it they all felt great - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 11/30 12:07:15
                                        wut? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 11/30 12:08:05
                                             you asked how humans universally feel about those - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 11/30 12:12:07
                                                  The Aztecs sacrificed people based on religious belief - 90Tiger MU - 11/30 12:17:51
               It's any wonder why those actions are considered - ummmm MU - 11/30 11:38:16
                    it certainly isn't human nature to consider murder, kidnappi - 90Tiger MU - 11/30 11:40:41
                         lol jfc - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 11/30 11:42:08
                              Here's natural rights in a nutshell, if you don't agree with - ummmm MU - 11/30 11:52:38
                                   kookish (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 11/30 11:54:45
                              If you think this is "religious zealotry", then you must als - 90Tiger MU - 11/30 11:48:57
                                   no those things exist independent of humans - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 11/30 11:51:38
                                        humans defined those things, just like natural - 90Tiger MU - 11/30 11:55:20
                                             Here let me try this - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 11/30 12:06:27
                                                  Who is talking about "objective proof" and why is it - 90Tiger MU - 11/30 12:12:04
                                                       no you don't understand about the pythagorean theorem - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 11/30 12:13:26
                                                            I know a human observed it, then proved it using mathematic - 90Tiger MU - 11/30 12:20:47
                              I hate to break this to you - ummmm MU - 11/30 11:47:36
     Is he suggesting we get our loot boots on? (nm) - ummmm MU - 11/30 11:05:22
          I don't believe he's suggesting anything nor even thinking - 90Tiger MU - 11/30 11:11:05
     He needs to go back to his motherland - JayHoaxH8r MU - 11/30 11:05:09




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