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It's pretty self-evident

Posted on: November 30, 2017 at 11:46:53 CT

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and I've explained it many times here when discussing natural rights and property rights, as well as the illegitimacy of government. You and only you own your life, body, and mind. That is self-ownership.

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is citizenship a natural right? - Butcher of Bakersfield STL - 11/30 10:19:40

No, citizenship is not a natural right. It is illegitimate - pickle MU

- 11/30 10:35:54

THAT was one pickle Dog Whistle(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 11/30 11:34:15

WTH is "self ownership" - mu7176grad MU - 11/30 11:24:22

It's pretty self-evident - pickle MU

- 11/30 11:46:53

no. it's a positive right - something given/granted/bestowed - 90Tiger MU - 11/30 10:25:53

There are no such things as "natural rights" - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 11/30 10:25:00

Chimps don’t have natural rights? - Ferg STL - 11/30 10:30:48

As are all species (nm) - pickle MU

- 11/30 11:01:35

No. (nm) - ummmm MU - 11/30 11:00:01

Why? - Ferg STL - 11/30 11:09:46

Try answering these questions too: - ummmm MU - 11/30 11:13:15

Because chimps don't have the ability to reason and express - ummmm MU - 11/30 11:11:40

Is that what your religion tells you? - Ferg STL - 11/30 11:20:54

My religion has nothing to do with it. - ummmm MU - 11/30 11:29:13

All animals are quite evolved for that matter. (nm) - ummmm MU - 11/30 11:00:14

The last couple days, there have been threads about how - ummmm MU - 11/30 10:30:29

You guys get all defensive when someone questions your - Ferg STL - 11/30 10:36:00

No, Ferg. They're simple concepts - pickle MU

- 11/30 10:41:21

well, I think you kooks are a brainwashed idiots - Ferg STL - 11/30 10:46:42

I didn't say you did - pickle MU

- 11/30 10:56:36

ain't that the truth - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 11/30 10:38:40

They have their own language - Ferg STL - 11/30 10:41:59

maybe you can help rags out, he's tongue-tied - 90Tiger MU - 11/30 10:50:02

You’re a weirdo - Ferg STL - 11/30 10:51:57

...and nice job of joining Rags in dodging the post in - 90Tiger MU - 11/30 10:54:40

Yeah, substantive discussion was halted - ummmm MU - 11/30 10:57:35

I take that as a compliment, thanks (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 11/30 10:53:26

Don't worry Ferg, I still think you're normal. (nm) - ummmm MU - 11/30 10:53:01

Explaining the position for the 145th time isn't being defen - 90Tiger MU - 11/30 10:38:01

Lol, no we don't. - ummmm MU - 11/30 10:37:05

willful ignorance is a terrific thing (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 11/30 10:31:32

oh my(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 11/30 10:33:39

natural rights implies the precise opposite of being - 90Tiger MU - 11/30 10:27:47

you do not have a right to life liberty or property - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 11/30 10:32:56

Those are natural rights of every individual (nm) - pickle MU

- 11/30 10:37:15

False(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 11/30 10:38:09

It can pretty much be summed up by Descartes famous words - pickle MU

- 11/30 10:42:51

RE: False(nm) - 90Tiger MU - 11/30 10:39:42

Does anyone have a superior right to your life over you? - ummmm MU - 11/30 10:36:11

So you think murder, kidnapping and theft should not - 90Tiger MU - 11/30 10:35:07

Not even remotely. - ummmm MU - 11/30 10:22:59