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Posted on: October 3, 2017 at 17:00:09 CT
MrBlueSky MU
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the 4th amendment. I'm talking about sentencing practices, mostly. Too many first time gun offenders get a slap on the wrist. If there is a harsh penalty with guaranteed prison time for the first illegal/stolen gun offense, change would occur imo.
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I have no problem with stricter gun laws. They're - TheWildcat STL - 10/3 16:40:55
     Not that it would change a damn thing with a Paddock - JG MU - 10/3 16:51:07
          Sentencing is a huge problem, great point... - Gyro MU - 10/3 16:54:39
               sigh. the myth of mass drug POSSESSION incarceration - blake1771 KC - 10/3 20:40:12
               Legalize all drugs and gun violence goes way down(nm) - TheWildcat STL - 10/3 16:55:45
                    Yep. Spend that money on drug treatment programs - TigerNuts KC - 10/3 16:56:33
                         So if someone exercises the freedom of drug use why - Floyd Turbo MU - 10/3 18:29:33
                         Mental health has been cut across the board for decades - MrBlueSky MU - 10/3 16:57:42
                              I've hardly seen any discussion on mental health, just guns - tigersknowbest MU - 10/3 17:09:18
                                   Mass killings of strangers not done by Muslims - JG MU - 10/3 17:15:57
                              Yes...much of it is block granted through discretionary... - Gyro MU - 10/3 16:58:51
                         I'd be okay with that...I don't think a lot of people... - Gyro MU - 10/3 16:57:24
                    At the very least, decriminalize them (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 10/3 16:56:29
          Most of these mass shooters recognize them as suicide - TheWildcat STL - 10/3 16:54:21
               so maybe we make suicide easier and more fun somehow - TigerwTLP MU - 10/3 16:56:29
                    Putting aside the horror of the situation, do you think - TigerNuts KC - 10/3 16:57:44
                         but if you give him an option that gives him more attention - tigerinhogtown STL - 10/3 16:59:56
                         that thought definitely crossed my mind - TigerwTLP MU - 10/3 16:58:56
               true, but mass shooters are outliers in the gun debate - tigerinhogtown STL - 10/3 16:56:06
          but as we have seen posted here earlier, that would be - hefeweizen MU - 10/3 16:53:46
               if you de-criminalize drugs, they would come out ahead(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 10/3 16:55:02
                    and that's where it should all start. end the drug war(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 10/3 16:56:14
                    Yep, or at least modernize drug laws... - Gyro MU - 10/3 16:55:45
     Sure it would. - MrBlueSky MU - 10/3 16:46:45
          Do I have to pass any tests to meet Paco under the pier?(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 10/3 16:51:08
               Nope, but in my plan, anyone who is found in possession - MrBlueSky MU - 10/3 17:01:39
          Lol, I would bet most inner city murders happen with street - TheWildcat STL - 10/3 16:49:21
               between 3 & 11% commited with legally bought guns - tigerinhogtown STL - 10/3 16:52:11
               A big problem in the city is they get stolen out of vehicles - Gyro MU - 10/3 16:51:50
               Create mandatory sentencing - MrBlueSky MU - 10/3 16:50:39
                    Look how well that worked out for drug sentencing! (nm) - Cosmo MU - 10/3 16:52:50
                         You will net more violent criminals, however... - Gyro MU - 10/3 16:56:33
                              It wold be a disaster - Cosmo MU - 10/3 17:02:49
                         Drugs are a totally different animal then guns, imo (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 10/3 16:53:08
                              I snort coke off Berettas(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 10/3 16:57:00
                                   Ballsy (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 10/3 16:58:21
                              Doesn't matter, mandatory sentencing is the issue - Cosmo MU - 10/3 16:54:09
                                   I agree that mandatory sentencing is a problem - MrBlueSky MU - 10/3 16:55:49
                                        like institute stop and frisk?(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 10/3 16:58:18
                                             Stop and frisk has been proven to be a violation of - MrBlueSky MU - 10/3 17:00:09
                    We should be cautious about mandatory anything - TigerNuts KC - 10/3 16:52:20
                    You can get worse for selling crack. They still sell crack (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 10/3 16:51:51
                         Okay 20 years. Whatever you want. Another thing that would - MrBlueSky MU - 10/3 16:52:52
                              build a wall (nm) - TigerNuts KC - 10/3 16:53:29
     Like I said below, make changes that make a difference - TigerNuts KC - 10/3 16:43:52
          I think licensing might help - meatiger MU - 10/3 19:41:26
          If anyone thinks one law would prevent all these things from - kmawv8 MU - 10/3 16:48:24
          band-aid it while you work on the root cause - TigerwTLP MU - 10/3 16:46:45
               “that obviously doesn’t pertain anymore”...... - STL1DFW STL - 10/3 18:28:27
               fair...stop-gap solutions are reasonable if you have a - TigerNuts KC - 10/3 16:48:02
          I don't know. I have no idea. Maybe a psych evaluation - TheWildcat STL - 10/3 16:44:38
               We also have to accept that there is a certain level of risk - TigerNuts KC - 10/3 16:46:34
     So I'll mark you down as a repeal the 2nd Amendment guy - kmawv8 MU - 10/3 16:43:01
          What's wrong with amending it? (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 10/3 16:48:59
               There is a process for that. Get busy(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 10/3 16:49:37
                    I've called my congresswoman - MrBlueSky MU - 10/3 16:50:56
                         because she disagrees with you?(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 10/3 16:52:52
                              Nah, even if our politics were similar - MrBlueSky MU - 10/3 16:54:23
                                   New emphasis on & initiatives for Mental Health would help - STL1DFW STL - 10/3 18:24:25
                                   lol, no. Your assumptions about me are quite comical(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 10/3 16:55:28
                                        Well, I apologize. (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 10/3 16:56:16
          exactly. I bet Wildcat isnt really telling the truth here (nm) - hefeweizen MU - 10/3 16:45:13
               I am all for making it harder to buy a gun if the experts - TheWildcat STL - 10/3 16:45:50
                    Harder how? We already have background checks for - hefeweizen MU - 10/3 16:46:46
                         Require an appointment with a psychiatrist to be evaluated (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 10/3 16:50:46
                              Ok. What if the desire to buy a gun is in and of itsef - hefeweizen MU - 10/3 16:52:34
          And repeal the 13th-MUI (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 10/3 16:43:44
     What is the acceptable amount of dead people that - hefeweizen MU - 10/3 16:42:12
          typical liberal hysteria(nm) - STL1DFW STL - 10/3 18:30:00
          It aint a gun problem, Its a people problem - Uncle Fester USMC - 10/3 16:46:14
          threeve(nm) - MizzouAstro MU - 10/3 16:46:14
          What law fixes it?(nm) - tman KC - 10/3 16:45:58
               none short of repeal of 2nd amendment and confiscation - hefeweizen MU - 10/3 16:47:58
                    That doesn’t fix anything. My God, the stupidity(nm) - STL1DFW STL - 10/3 18:31:00
                    that doesn't fix it - BeakerHater MU - 10/3 16:49:10
                         I know. It would take a combination of armed gun - hefeweizen MU - 10/3 16:50:48
                              Wow, lol! The world according to..... - STL1DFW STL - 10/3 18:32:57
          What is the proper amount of firepower to think you can - kmawv8 MU - 10/3 16:43:39
               that's an odd answer to my question(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 10/3 16:44:34




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