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RE: Why not?

Posted on: August 7, 2017 at 10:23:42 CT

pickle MU

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Because no one's rights are infringed upon by the owner/driver/operator. Government does not and can not have rights

And also because license, registration, tags are an infringement against the owner's property rights

Please explain why this message is being reported.

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Missouri Manhunt for cop killer in Clinton... - Salty Dog MU

- 8/7 08:28:50

Remember this? - ummmm MU - 8/7 09:19:41

And? (nm) - Salty Dog MU

- 8/7 09:28:48

And I am trying to save officer lives. - ummmm MU - 8/7 09:30:31

So police should ignore driving 100 mph in a school zone? - Salty Dog MU

- 8/7 09:49:20

Yeah, it is easy to ignore something that never happens. (nm) - ummmm MU - 8/7 09:51:55

Why does it never happen? (nm) - Salty Dog MU

- 8/7 09:53:31

why do any laws get broken if the law is preventing it? - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 09:54:37

No, I'm trying to interpret the dumb-assery thinking of you - Salty Dog MU

- 8/7 09:55:49

no you're not. that most definitely isn't what you're doing - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 10:00:20

There is no pill you can take for your condition... - Salty Dog MU

- 8/7 10:02:45

Because it's not safe. (nm) - ummmm MU - 8/7 09:54:13

So people never driver recklessly - Sal KC - 8/7 09:57:27

They believe if there is no police deterrent on the streets - Salty Dog MU

- 8/7 09:59:42

Reckless driving happens on the streets - Sal KC - 8/7 10:00:42

correct, it isn't the presence of cops which prevents it (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 10:02:37

That's debatable - Sal KC - 8/7 10:04:33

WRONG! - Salty Dog MU

- 8/7 10:03:56

People don't drive 100 mph in a school zone. (nm) - ummmm MU - 8/7 09:57:55

Why don't they? (nm) - Salty Dog MU

- 8/7 10:00:22

Safety (nm) - ummmm MU - 8/7 10:01:22

Does MS-13 care about safety? - Salty Dog MU

- 8/7 10:04:27

Are we still talking about driving 100 MPH in school zones? - ummmm MU - 8/7 10:05:25

We're talking about how stupid your point is... - Salty Dog MU

- 8/7 10:06:45

The 100 MPH in a school zone thing was your point (nm) - ummmm MU - 8/7 10:07:40

And you are doing your best to avoid answering it... - Salty Dog MU

- 8/7 10:08:35

What was the question that I'm not answering? (nm) - ummmm MU - 8/7 10:09:04

What was you point? (nm) - Salty Dog MU

- 8/7 10:15:04

But what was the question I'm not answering? - ummmm MU - 8/7 10:27:11

The points are many - pickle MU

- 8/7 10:20:15

What about deaths of innocent bystanders that get hit... - Salty Dog MU

- 8/7 10:21:25

killing people is a crime - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 12:24:18

What about them? What does that have to do with - pickle MU

- 8/7 10:25:50

Some people may think they are traveling safely - Sal KC - 8/7 10:02:52

I'm sorry, Sal, but this subthread is about Salty Dog's - ummmm MU - 8/7 10:04:43

How on earth do you know that? (nm) - Sal KC - 8/7 09:58:22

You ever heard of that? - ummmm MU - 8/7 10:00:18

I've seen it with my own lying eyes... - Salty Dog MU

- 8/7 10:05:13

Yes, I see it a lot as do other officers - Sal KC - 8/7 10:01:52

You're doing what liberals do, btw. - ummmm MU - 8/7 10:07:15

I have said nothing in regards to roads being privatized (nm) - Sal KC - 8/7 10:08:07

I know you haven't. You have yet to remotely address that. - ummmm MU - 8/7 10:09:54

I also never said you wanted reckless driving - Sal KC - 8/7 10:11:54

That is exactly what is happening in this thread. - ummmm MU - 8/7 10:21:42

I didn't say that - Sal KC - 8/7 10:26:46

You joined in on the same thread and expanded it. (nm) - ummmm MU - 8/7 10:27:38

And? That doesn't mean I said - Sal KC - 8/7 10:29:54

Then what was all this talk about reckless driving? - ummmm MU - 8/7 10:35:23

You seem to be complicating this - Sal KC - 8/7 10:39:02

Fair enough. I looked back through the thread, and it was - ummmm MU - 8/7 11:18:23

Understandable - Sal KC - 8/7 11:40:07

Was it in a school zone? (nm) - ummmm MU - 8/7 10:05:56

You said residential streets (nm) - Sal KC - 8/7 10:08:39

Schools are in residential areas, hence why I used that. (nm) - ummmm MU - 8/7 10:10:25

O-kay...How about in a residential neighborhood? - Salty Dog MU

- 8/7 10:07:41

In broad day light with many people around? (nm) - ummmm MU - 8/7 10:08:49

yes (nm) - Sal KC - 8/7 10:09:20

Though I still doubt this happens - ummmm MU - 8/7 10:11:13

No crimes happen "for the most part"... - Salty Dog MU

- 8/7 10:16:31

No, I mean, for the most part, I doubt it happens. (nm) - ummmm MU - 8/7 10:22:21

On private roads, that person is going to lose their road - ummmm MU - 8/7 10:10:53

How is that going to stop them from driving? - Salty Dog MU

- 8/7 10:17:23

Well, roads are usually an important part of driving (nm) - ummmm MU - 8/7 10:22:42

And? - Salty Dog MU

- 8/7 10:24:47

With private roads, the road owner does. - ummmm MU - 8/7 10:26:09

That's fair - Sal KC - 8/7 10:12:50

Not from the same people who investigating other - ummmm MU - 8/7 10:23:44

Another fair statement - Sal KC - 8/7 10:52:50

If police officers acted more like peace officers on the - ummmm MU - 8/7 10:24:43

By peace officers, I mean simply keeping the peace. - ummmm MU - 8/7 10:25:27

Stop it...Just stop it... - Salty Dog MU

- 8/7 10:18:16

Who determines that? (nm) - Salty Dog MU

- 8/7 09:56:26

Individuals (nm) - ummmm MU - 8/7 09:57:35

What individuals? - Salty Dog MU

- 8/7 10:05:52

The individual making the safety determination. - ummmm MU - 8/7 10:06:15

And who would that be? - Salty Dog MU

- 8/7 10:18:54

The individual making the safety determination. - ummmm MU - 8/7 10:28:27

What are actual crimes? (nm) - Sal KC - 8/7 09:38:11

Deliberate actions infringing on another's rights - pickle MU

- 8/7 09:41:17

Is stealing someone else' license plates infringing... - Salty Dog MU

- 8/7 09:53:08

What are deliberate actions? (nm) - Sal KC - 8/7 09:42:13

Actions made with certain level of conscious intent (nm) - ummmm MU - 8/7 09:43:42

What level is that though? - Sal KC - 8/7 09:47:12

Sal - focus on the other half of the statement. A crime - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 09:53:31

So if someone is displaying license plates that does not... - Salty Dog MU

- 8/7 09:54:54

No (nm) - pickle MU

- 8/7 10:16:52

Why not? - Salty Dog MU

- 8/7 10:19:22

RE: Why not? - pickle MU

- 8/7 10:23:42

no, because vehicle registration and licensing is a scam (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 10:03:28

O...M...G... - Salty Dog MU

- 8/7 10:09:33

Licensing is an infringement of property rights (nm) - pickle MU

- 8/7 10:17:28

How so? - Salty Dog MU

- 8/7 10:19:51

Because it is not a voluntary agreement - pickle MU

- 8/7 10:24:14

"alternate reality" - pickle MU

- 8/7 09:52:26

It has to be an alternate world because you simply don't... - Salty Dog MU

- 8/7 09:57:08

That's exactly what it is though - Sal KC - 8/7 09:52:47

No, it isn't - pickle MU

- 8/7 10:02:47

How so? We are simply suggesting a better way to - ummmm MU - 8/7 09:53:46

So letting the streets become lawless is your "better way?" - Salty Dog MU

- 8/7 09:58:22

Straw man (nm) - pickle MU

- 8/7 10:03:11

^^ Dodge (nm) - Salty Dog MU

- 8/7 10:20:21

No (nm) - pickle MU

- 8/7 10:24:32

I don't want the roads to be lawless. - ummmm MU - 8/7 10:01:11

Who will enforce that agreement? - Salty Dog MU

- 8/7 10:22:39

how do movie theaters enforce that you buy a ticket - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 12:57:48

The road companies. That was not a hard question (nm) - ummmm MU - 8/7 10:26:33

There are different levels of intent. - ummmm MU - 8/7 09:50:20

So there should be no traffic laws? (nm) - Sal KC - 8/7 09:52:07

And now the straw man (nm) - pickle MU

- 8/7 10:05:56

It'a a question not a straw man (nm) - Sal KC - 8/7 10:07:11

It was a straw man regardless of format (nm) - pickle MU

- 8/7 10:14:49

And this wasn't a traffic law. It was a tax collection. (nm) - ummmm MU - 8/7 09:52:51

There should be no public roads. (nm) - ummmm MU - 8/7 09:52:28

Have a good day, Sal (nm) - pickle MU

- 8/7 09:43:18

Be an adult and have a conversation - Sal KC - 8/7 09:44:37

I'm not going to get into a Spanky "discussion" - pickle MU

- 8/7 09:50:32

So "deliberate" could never be - Sal KC - 8/7 09:53:54

you're contorting to avoid the actual differentiation and - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 09:55:28

No I'm not, I'm trying to get clarification - Sal KC - 8/7 09:56:37

No you aren't (nm) - pickle MU

- 8/7 10:12:38

nobody has ever claimed it's a perfect approach, sal, you - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 10:06:03

That's a good explanation - Sal KC - 8/7 10:42:16

cool, i'm glad as hell to read that (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 12:26:41

That was a very Spanky-ish post by him. (nm) - ummmm MU - 8/7 09:52:13

Infringements upon persons and property. - ummmm MU - 8/7 09:40:59

Self-defense (nm) - pickle MU

- 8/7 09:12:03

Clear cut case of murder of a cop (nm) - Salty Dog MU

- 8/7 09:30:09

No, it's self-defense - pickle MU

- 8/7 09:36:53

Fvck you, pickle. - Tigrrrr! MU

- 8/7 09:43:57

So if you commit a traffic violation - Sal KC - 8/7 09:38:51

Self-defense from what? (nm) - Sal KC - 8/7 09:19:44

An armed robber (nm) - pickle MU

- 8/7 09:42:56

Who was being robbed - Sal KC - 8/7 09:45:16

The driver - pickle MU

- 8/7 09:51:27

What property? (nm) - Sal KC - 8/7 09:52:26

His money (nm) - pickle MU

- 8/7 10:04:30

How do you know what the - Sal KC - 8/7 10:06:15

Hence self-defense (nm) - pickle MU

- 8/7 10:15:45

What if the guy - Sal KC - 8/7 10:17:54

If an armed person comes up to you - pickle MU

- 8/7 10:31:43

Had just been reading about it. - Tigrrrr! MU

- 8/7 09:01:08

Really strange how the shooter would come out shooting... - Salty Dog MU

- 8/7 09:07:25

Very bizarre behavior from the driver - Sal KC - 8/7 09:22:40

"Just drive off" - pickle MU

- 8/7 09:40:29

As opposed to resorting to murder - Sal KC - 8/7 09:41:22

It wasn't murder. What happens next, Sal? - pickle MU

- 8/7 09:42:37

It was murder - Sal KC - 8/7 09:46:15

The guy didn't want a ticket. What happens next? (nm) - pickle MU

- 8/7 09:49:20

I told you what happens next (nm) - Sal KC - 8/7 09:57:58

You didn't follow it to its conclusion - pickle MU

- 8/7 10:04:17

Terrible event. Sorry to hear of it(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 8/7 08:40:09

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