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Posted on: August 7, 2017 at 09:53:46 CT
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This isn't a denial of current reality, it's an assessment of it.
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Missouri Manhunt for cop killer in Clinton... - Salty Dog MU - 8/7 08:28:50
     Remember this? - ummmm MU - 8/7 09:19:41
          And? (nm) - Salty Dog MU - 8/7 09:28:48
               And I am trying to save officer lives. - ummmm MU - 8/7 09:30:31
                    So police should ignore driving 100 mph in a school zone? - Salty Dog MU - 8/7 09:49:20
                         Yeah, it is easy to ignore something that never happens. (nm) - ummmm MU - 8/7 09:51:55
                              Why does it never happen? (nm) - Salty Dog MU - 8/7 09:53:31
                                   why do any laws get broken if the law is preventing it? - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 09:54:37
                                        No, I'm trying to interpret the dumb-assery thinking of you - Salty Dog MU - 8/7 09:55:49
                                             no you're not. that most definitely isn't what you're doing - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 10:00:20
                                                  There is no pill you can take for your condition... - Salty Dog MU - 8/7 10:02:45
                                   Because it's not safe. (nm) - ummmm MU - 8/7 09:54:13
                                        So people never driver recklessly - Sal KC - 8/7 09:57:27
                                             They believe if there is no police deterrent on the streets - Salty Dog MU - 8/7 09:59:42
                                                  Reckless driving happens on the streets - Sal KC - 8/7 10:00:42
                                                       correct, it isn't the presence of cops which prevents it (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 10:02:37
                                                            That's debatable - Sal KC - 8/7 10:04:33
                                                            WRONG! - Salty Dog MU - 8/7 10:03:56
                                             People don't drive 100 mph in a school zone. (nm) - ummmm MU - 8/7 09:57:55
                                                  Why don't they? (nm) - Salty Dog MU - 8/7 10:00:22
                                                       Safety (nm) - ummmm MU - 8/7 10:01:22
                                                            Does MS-13 care about safety? - Salty Dog MU - 8/7 10:04:27
                                                                 Are we still talking about driving 100 MPH in school zones? - ummmm MU - 8/7 10:05:25
                                                                      We're talking about how stupid your point is... - Salty Dog MU - 8/7 10:06:45
                                                                           The 100 MPH in a school zone thing was your point (nm) - ummmm MU - 8/7 10:07:40
                                                                                And you are doing your best to avoid answering it... - Salty Dog MU - 8/7 10:08:35
                                                                                     What was the question that I'm not answering? (nm) - ummmm MU - 8/7 10:09:04
                                                                                          What was you point? (nm) - Salty Dog MU - 8/7 10:15:04
                                                                                               But what was the question I'm not answering? - ummmm MU - 8/7 10:27:11
                                                                                               The points are many - pickle MU - 8/7 10:20:15
                                                                                                    What about deaths of innocent bystanders that get hit... - Salty Dog MU - 8/7 10:21:25
                                                                                                         killing people is a crime - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 12:24:18
                                                                                                         What about them? What does that have to do with - pickle MU - 8/7 10:25:50
                                                            Some people may think they are traveling safely - Sal KC - 8/7 10:02:52
                                                                 I'm sorry, Sal, but this subthread is about Salty Dog's - ummmm MU - 8/7 10:04:43
                                                  How on earth do you know that? (nm) - Sal KC - 8/7 09:58:22
                                                       You ever heard of that? - ummmm MU - 8/7 10:00:18
                                                            I've seen it with my own lying eyes... - Salty Dog MU - 8/7 10:05:13
                                                            Yes, I see it a lot as do other officers - Sal KC - 8/7 10:01:52
                                                                 You're doing what liberals do, btw. - ummmm MU - 8/7 10:07:15
                                                                      I have said nothing in regards to roads being privatized (nm) - Sal KC - 8/7 10:08:07
                                                                           I know you haven't. You have yet to remotely address that. - ummmm MU - 8/7 10:09:54
                                                                                I also never said you wanted reckless driving - Sal KC - 8/7 10:11:54
                                                                                     That is exactly what is happening in this thread. - ummmm MU - 8/7 10:21:42
                                                                                          I didn't say that - Sal KC - 8/7 10:26:46
                                                                                               You joined in on the same thread and expanded it. (nm) - ummmm MU - 8/7 10:27:38
                                                                                                    And? That doesn't mean I said - Sal KC - 8/7 10:29:54
                                                                                                         Then what was all this talk about reckless driving? - ummmm MU - 8/7 10:35:23
                                                                                                              You seem to be complicating this - Sal KC - 8/7 10:39:02
                                                                                                                   Fair enough. I looked back through the thread, and it was - ummmm MU - 8/7 11:18:23
                                                                                                                        Understandable - Sal KC - 8/7 11:40:07
                                                                 Was it in a school zone? (nm) - ummmm MU - 8/7 10:05:56
                                                                      You said residential streets (nm) - Sal KC - 8/7 10:08:39
                                                                           Schools are in residential areas, hence why I used that. (nm) - ummmm MU - 8/7 10:10:25
                                                                      O-kay...How about in a residential neighborhood? - Salty Dog MU - 8/7 10:07:41
                                                                           In broad day light with many people around? (nm) - ummmm MU - 8/7 10:08:49
                                                                                yes (nm) - Sal KC - 8/7 10:09:20
                                                                                     Though I still doubt this happens - ummmm MU - 8/7 10:11:13
                                                                                          No crimes happen "for the most part"... - Salty Dog MU - 8/7 10:16:31
                                                                                               No, I mean, for the most part, I doubt it happens. (nm) - ummmm MU - 8/7 10:22:21
                                                                                     On private roads, that person is going to lose their road - ummmm MU - 8/7 10:10:53
                                                                                          How is that going to stop them from driving? - Salty Dog MU - 8/7 10:17:23
                                                                                               Well, roads are usually an important part of driving (nm) - ummmm MU - 8/7 10:22:42
                                                                                                    And? - Salty Dog MU - 8/7 10:24:47
                                                                                                         With private roads, the road owner does. - ummmm MU - 8/7 10:26:09
                                                                                          That's fair - Sal KC - 8/7 10:12:50
                                                                                               Not from the same people who investigating other - ummmm MU - 8/7 10:23:44
                                                                                                    Another fair statement - Sal KC - 8/7 10:52:50
                                                                                                    If police officers acted more like peace officers on the - ummmm MU - 8/7 10:24:43
                                                                                                         By peace officers, I mean simply keeping the peace. - ummmm MU - 8/7 10:25:27
                                                                                               Stop it...Just stop it... - Salty Dog MU - 8/7 10:18:16
                                        Who determines that? (nm) - Salty Dog MU - 8/7 09:56:26
                                             Individuals (nm) - ummmm MU - 8/7 09:57:35
                                                  What individuals? - Salty Dog MU - 8/7 10:05:52
                                                       The individual making the safety determination. - ummmm MU - 8/7 10:06:15
                                                            And who would that be? - Salty Dog MU - 8/7 10:18:54
                                                                 The individual making the safety determination. - ummmm MU - 8/7 10:28:27
                    What are actual crimes? (nm) - Sal KC - 8/7 09:38:11
                         Deliberate actions infringing on another's rights - pickle MU - 8/7 09:41:17
                              Is stealing someone else' license plates infringing... - Salty Dog MU - 8/7 09:53:08
                              What are deliberate actions? (nm) - Sal KC - 8/7 09:42:13
                                   Actions made with certain level of conscious intent (nm) - ummmm MU - 8/7 09:43:42
                                        What level is that though? - Sal KC - 8/7 09:47:12
                                             Sal - focus on the other half of the statement. A crime - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 09:53:31
                                                  So if someone is displaying license plates that does not... - Salty Dog MU - 8/7 09:54:54
                                                       No (nm) - pickle MU - 8/7 10:16:52
                                                            Why not? - Salty Dog MU - 8/7 10:19:22
                                                                 RE: Why not? - pickle MU - 8/7 10:23:42
                                                       no, because vehicle registration and licensing is a scam (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 10:03:28
                                                            O...M...G... - Salty Dog MU - 8/7 10:09:33
                                                                 Licensing is an infringement of property rights (nm) - pickle MU - 8/7 10:17:28
                                                                      How so? - Salty Dog MU - 8/7 10:19:51
                                                                           Because it is not a voluntary agreement - pickle MU - 8/7 10:24:14
                                             "alternate reality" - pickle MU - 8/7 09:52:26
                                                  It has to be an alternate world because you simply don't... - Salty Dog MU - 8/7 09:57:08
                                                  That's exactly what it is though - Sal KC - 8/7 09:52:47
                                                       No, it isn't - pickle MU - 8/7 10:02:47
                                                       How so? We are simply suggesting a better way to - ummmm MU - 8/7 09:53:46
                                                            So letting the streets become lawless is your "better way?" - Salty Dog MU - 8/7 09:58:22
                                                                 Straw man (nm) - pickle MU - 8/7 10:03:11
                                                                      ^^ Dodge (nm) - Salty Dog MU - 8/7 10:20:21
                                                                           No (nm) - pickle MU - 8/7 10:24:32
                                                                 I don't want the roads to be lawless. - ummmm MU - 8/7 10:01:11
                                                                      Who will enforce that agreement? - Salty Dog MU - 8/7 10:22:39
                                                                           how do movie theaters enforce that you buy a ticket - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 12:57:48
                                                                           The road companies. That was not a hard question (nm) - ummmm MU - 8/7 10:26:33
                                             There are different levels of intent. - ummmm MU - 8/7 09:50:20
                                                  So there should be no traffic laws? (nm) - Sal KC - 8/7 09:52:07
                                                       And now the straw man (nm) - pickle MU - 8/7 10:05:56
                                                            It'a a question not a straw man (nm) - Sal KC - 8/7 10:07:11
                                                                 It was a straw man regardless of format (nm) - pickle MU - 8/7 10:14:49
                                                       And this wasn't a traffic law. It was a tax collection. (nm) - ummmm MU - 8/7 09:52:51
                                                       There should be no public roads. (nm) - ummmm MU - 8/7 09:52:28
                                   Have a good day, Sal (nm) - pickle MU - 8/7 09:43:18
                                        Be an adult and have a conversation - Sal KC - 8/7 09:44:37
                                             I'm not going to get into a Spanky "discussion" - pickle MU - 8/7 09:50:32
                                                  So "deliberate" could never be - Sal KC - 8/7 09:53:54
                                                       you're contorting to avoid the actual differentiation and - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 09:55:28
                                                            No I'm not, I'm trying to get clarification - Sal KC - 8/7 09:56:37
                                                                 No you aren't (nm) - pickle MU - 8/7 10:12:38
                                                                 nobody has ever claimed it's a perfect approach, sal, you - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 10:06:03
                                                                      That's a good explanation - Sal KC - 8/7 10:42:16
                                                                           cool, i'm glad as hell to read that (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 12:26:41
                                                  That was a very Spanky-ish post by him. (nm) - ummmm MU - 8/7 09:52:13
                         Infringements upon persons and property. - ummmm MU - 8/7 09:40:59
     Self-defense (nm) - pickle MU - 8/7 09:12:03
          Clear cut case of murder of a cop (nm) - Salty Dog MU - 8/7 09:30:09
               No, it's self-defense - pickle MU - 8/7 09:36:53
                    Fvck you, pickle. - Tigrrrr! MU - 8/7 09:43:57
                    So if you commit a traffic violation - Sal KC - 8/7 09:38:51
          Self-defense from what? (nm) - Sal KC - 8/7 09:19:44
               An armed robber (nm) - pickle MU - 8/7 09:42:56
                    Who was being robbed - Sal KC - 8/7 09:45:16
                         The driver - pickle MU - 8/7 09:51:27
                              What property? (nm) - Sal KC - 8/7 09:52:26
                                   His money (nm) - pickle MU - 8/7 10:04:30
                                        How do you know what the - Sal KC - 8/7 10:06:15
                                             Hence self-defense (nm) - pickle MU - 8/7 10:15:45
                                                  What if the guy - Sal KC - 8/7 10:17:54
                                                       If an armed person comes up to you - pickle MU - 8/7 10:31:43
     Had just been reading about it. - Tigrrrr! MU - 8/7 09:01:08
          Really strange how the shooter would come out shooting... - Salty Dog MU - 8/7 09:07:25
               Very bizarre behavior from the driver - Sal KC - 8/7 09:22:40
                    "Just drive off" - pickle MU - 8/7 09:40:29
                         As opposed to resorting to murder - Sal KC - 8/7 09:41:22
                              It wasn't murder. What happens next, Sal? - pickle MU - 8/7 09:42:37
                                   It was murder - Sal KC - 8/7 09:46:15
                                        The guy didn't want a ticket. What happens next? (nm) - pickle MU - 8/7 09:49:20
                                             I told you what happens next (nm) - Sal KC - 8/7 09:57:58
                                                  You didn't follow it to its conclusion - pickle MU - 8/7 10:04:17
     Terrible event. Sorry to hear of it(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 8/7 08:40:09




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