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Posted on: June 16, 2017 at 14:22:07 CT
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/11/18/cuban-human-rights-activist-urges-u-s-to-suspend-trade-and-investment-in-cuba-until-regime-stops-oppression.html

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/16/president-donald-trump-unveils-new-us-cuba-policy.html

President Donald Trump arrives to deliver a speech on US-Cuba relations at the Manuel Artime Theater in Miami, Florida, U.S., June 16, 2017. Trump: Cancel Obama's 'one-sided' Cuba deal
1 Hour Ago | 04:23
President Donald Trump criticized his predecessor's Cuba policy on Friday in Miami, saying it allowed the Castro regime to benefit from increased tourism.

The White House's new policy directs the Treasury Department to end a common method of visiting the communist nation by stopping individual people-to-people travel, according to a document released ahead of Trump's remarks.

Tourism is technically banned by the U.S. embargo, but under the Obama administration, relaxed regulations allowed Americans to visit Cuba under people-to-people travel. Trump's policy restricts this form of travel to the island nation for individuals. Americans pursuing this type of travel would have to go in groups.

Although Trump said he was "canceling" Obama's policies, a document published by the Treasury's Office of Foreign Assets Control emphasizes that the changes announced Friday will not take effect until new regulations are issued.

"The profits from investment and tourism flow directly to the military. The regime takes the money and owns the industry. The outcome of the last administration's executive action has only been more repression and a move to crush the peaceful, democratic movement," Trump said Friday.

In a passionate speech ahead of the president's, Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., criticized Barack Obama's approach to U.S.-Cuba relations.

"A year and a half ago a president, an American president landed in Havana to outstretch his hand to a regime. Today, a new president lands in Miami to reach out his hand to the people of Cuba," Rubio said.

Last year, Obama became the first U.S. president to visit the island in 88 years.
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Cancelling Cuba deal makes sense... - Gyro MU - 6/16 13:23:12
     What was the deal---we apologize and give them how much??? - mu7176grad MU - 6/16 13:27:42
     That cuba deal wasn't a deal. It was abject failure. - RHAYWORTH MU - 6/16 13:26:33
          You're so collective in your thinking. - ummmm MU - 6/16 13:34:43
               the "deal" enriched the cuban leaders not its - 90Tiger MU - 6/16 13:39:22
                    Trust me, I don't think this "deal" was intended to directly - ummmm MU - 6/16 13:43:12
                         Call me when that trade isn't enriching Cuba's leaders - 90Tiger MU - 6/16 13:47:06
                              This is a dumb argument (nm) - pickle MU - 6/16 13:56:12
                                   RE: This is a dumb argument (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 6/16 14:22:07
                                   You just made me feel better about it, thanks (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 6/16 13:59:23
                                        lol(nm) - GODZILLA MU - 6/16 14:17:43
                              It never will until trade is allowed between people. - ummmm MU - 6/16 13:49:11
                                   this isn't trade between people, ummmm. perhaps - 90Tiger MU - 6/16 13:55:03
                                        Yes, it is. Your posted article in this thread demonstrates - ummmm MU - 6/16 14:30:22
                                             hence, making a new deal that is more focused on free - 90Tiger MU - 6/16 14:35:43
                                                  Maybe I am reading different news stories from today, but I - ummmm MU - 6/16 14:39:23
                                                       You're clearly not reading the specifically stated, quotable - 90Tiger MU - 6/16 14:44:54
                                                            Lol @GAT, Jr - pickle MU - 6/16 14:48:40
                                                                 RE: Lol @GAT, Jr - 90Tiger MU - 6/16 14:57:43
                                                                 Interesting- are you looking at the impacts or intent - 90Tiger MU - 6/16 14:56:36
                                                                      More laziness (nm) - pickle MU - 6/16 15:04:29
                                                            Yes, I am looking at the immediate impacts - ummmm MU - 6/16 14:48:16
                                                                 What are the immediate impacts of the Obama "deal" - - 90Tiger MU - 6/16 14:57:28
                                                                      There were (somewhat) immediate positive results for travel - ummmm MU - 6/16 15:02:51
                                                                           Read the friggin' article for pete's sake - 90Tiger MU - 6/16 15:04:06
                                                                                RE: Read the friggin' article for pete's sake - ummmm MU - 6/16 15:06:39
                                                                                     and the rest? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 6/16 15:07:45
                                                                                          The rest is irrelevant (nm) - pickle MU - 6/16 15:21:56
                                                                                               you go for the symbolism of the cuba "deal" over - 90Tiger MU - 6/16 15:30:27
                                                                                                    how are those connected - meatiger MU - 6/16 15:31:56
                                                                                                         do you have 5 current mortgages on your house or - 90Tiger MU - 6/16 15:36:37
                                                                                                              I tear up the old one - meatiger MU - 6/16 15:41:07
               WTF? You cant have free trade with a dictatorship idiot. - RHAYWORTH MU - 6/16 13:38:33
                    There isn't anything remotely free about the US, either - pickle MU - 6/16 13:57:41
                         so you agree, the "deal" was Bull$hit, cosmetic crap - 90Tiger MU - 6/16 14:22:56
                              You're lazy. Putting words in my mouth. (nm) - pickle MU - 6/16 14:32:10
                                   Well, when your big exertion of effort to make a point is - 90Tiger MU - 6/16 14:47:17
                                        You're confused - pickle MU - 6/16 14:49:35
                                             and i don't ask you for one, but don't call me lazy - 90Tiger MU - 6/16 15:02:18
                                                  You were being lazy and dishonest (nm) - pickle MU - 6/16 15:03:23
                                                       False, pickle. Neither. Your ignorance on a subject - 90Tiger MU - 6/16 15:04:46
                                                            You were being lazy and dishonest - pickle MU - 6/16 15:33:49
                         This may be your dumbest argument ever. - GODZILLA MU - 6/16 14:19:39
                              You offer nothing - pickle MU - 6/16 14:40:57
                    The purpose of the "deal" was to begin a process of - ummmm MU - 6/16 13:42:10
                         My concern is that it's a false line, ummmm. It isn't - 90Tiger MU - 6/16 13:48:21
                              I recognize that. That is why I referred to it as - ummmm MU - 6/16 13:50:07
                                   But Trump has "good intentions" - meatiger MU - 6/16 14:53:35
                                   it isn't beginning that process. the cuban govt will - 90Tiger MU - 6/16 13:57:26
                                        RE: it isn't beginning that process. the cuban govt will - ummmm MU - 6/16 14:31:35
                                             you clearly haven't read trump's intentions, right? - 90Tiger MU - 6/16 14:38:19
                                                  So - meatiger MU - 6/16 14:54:47
                                                       agreed !!! Exactly!!! the current Obama deal isn't free - 90Tiger MU - 6/16 14:59:19
                                                            Yeah, but neither is Trump's plan for more restrictions - ummmm MU - 6/16 15:01:02
                                                                 what is trump's "plan" you keep referring to? Have you - 90Tiger MU - 6/16 15:03:01
                                                                      RE: what is trump's "plan" you keep referring to? Have you - ummmm MU - 6/16 15:06:16
                                                                           the other benefits of enhanced travel and business - meatiger MU - 6/16 15:11:25
                                                  And I am not fervently defending the Obama deal. - ummmm MU - 6/16 14:41:07
                                                       You're defending it by saying it''s a bad move to remove - 90Tiger MU - 6/16 14:43:42
                                                            Trump is a liar - meatiger MU - 6/16 14:56:10
                                                                 I'm dying to hear you explain the current deal and what - 90Tiger MU - 6/16 14:58:32
                                                                      Other than what I have read here - meatiger MU - 6/16 15:04:09
                                                                           so stop inserting your assumptions and projections - 90Tiger MU - 6/16 15:19:12
                                                                                Intresting how you distrust all other politicians - meatiger MU - 6/16 15:30:45
                                                                                     meat, at least read my posts before babbling stupidly - 90Tiger MU - 6/16 21:43:15
                                                  His current intentions are to add restrictions to trade and - ummmm MU - 6/16 14:40:12
                                                       I won't hold my breath either, but the least you could do - 90Tiger MU - 6/16 14:46:20
                    Wasting your time. It feels good so it has to be right(nm) - tman KC - 6/16 13:40:29
                         Freedom is always right (nm) - pickle MU - 6/16 13:58:08




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