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Correct, the State solely exists by force

Posted on: May 23, 2017 at 09:53:26 CT
pickle MU
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so let's go back to Boaz:

"Governments should exist to protect rights, to protect us from others who might use force against us. When governments use force against people who have not violated the rights of others, then governments themselves become rights violators. "

Minarchists and libertarians in general recognize this, though they may still harbor the mistaken belief that gvmt exists by consent. I don't see it as a problem or an inconsistency. They get there eventually. As I said, it's often a waypoint. I don't see any real disagreement here.
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Libertarianism - pickle MU - 5/23 08:44:59
     has there ever been a successful society driven by - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 5/23 09:06:11
          which societies in all of history (and current) would you - 90Tiger MU - 5/23 09:25:31
               yeah, that's a little gray - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 5/23 09:27:48
                    no, you should ask first "what societies are / were successf - 90Tiger MU - 5/23 09:31:42
                         I'm not dismissing anything - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 5/23 09:45:50
                              You are entirely dismissive - pickle MU - 5/23 10:01:02
                         before that ask "what is a successful society" (nm) - MizzouAstro MU - 5/23 09:33:18
                              the only successful society that I am aware of is an - lqf2b8 MU - 5/23 09:35:28
     seems like a minarchist's take on libertarianism not an - lqf2b8 MU - 5/23 09:02:36
          minarchism and anarchism are points on the spectrum - pickle MU - 5/23 09:08:40
               I know the difference but like I said, the Boaz quote you - lqf2b8 MU - 5/23 09:11:57
                    It's not a minarchist or anarchist take - pickle MU - 5/23 09:18:34
                         correct me if I am wrong but you have stated very often - lqf2b8 MU - 5/23 09:24:35
                              Correct, the State solely exists by force - pickle MU - 5/23 09:53:26
                                   "Minarchists and libertarians"?? minarchists are libertarian - lqf2b8 MU - 5/23 10:02:25
                                        All minarchists are libertarians - pickle MU - 5/23 10:42:47
                              You are focusing on the 2nd paragraph not the - TigerMatt STL - 5/23 09:44:40
                                   even the highlighted text advocates laws to be put in place - lqf2b8 MU - 5/23 09:50:20
                                        Well, yeah...laws can exist without gvmt - pickle MU - 5/23 09:55:08
                                             why are we discussing whether or not the passage you - lqf2b8 MU - 5/23 10:11:39
                                                  I haven't cherry picked anything - pickle MU - 5/23 10:43:58
                         RE: It's not a minarchist or anarchist take - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 5/23 09:20:05




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