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No. We created a narrative that the 851 score is

Posted on: May 11, 2017 at 13:08:43 CT
FIJItiger MU
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because of Haith. In literally every article an 851 score is ever referenced, it is attributed to Haith. Our multiyear score was 979 when Haith left MU, and the impacts that drove that single year score to an 851 were due to players who left when Kim took over. When Haith left, they were still counting full credit on our APR tabulation and enrolled and part of the program. That is the narrative I'm referring to.

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APR question: i saw in an article that there are levels - ajpe53 MU - 5/11 09:26:21
     You got your high level, your medium level and - alstl MU - 5/11 15:35:55
     Oriaki transferred to MU because of APR issues - UMR85 MU - 5/11 13:35:07
     All you need to know is that the current players do not - MizzouTigerz MU - 5/11 12:44:44
          You think Kemp ends up at a D1 program next year? - tigerdb MU - 5/11 13:11:28
               1. What I think about that is not relevant. 2.What you think - MizzouTigerz MU - 5/11 13:50:21
                    That's a lot more accurate than your original post - tigerdb MU - 5/11 14:05:33
                         It is no more accurate. - MizzouTigerz MU - 5/11 14:36:43
          APR doesn't measure character. At all (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 12:45:47
               And nobody, but apparently you, suggested it did. - MizzouTigerz MU - 5/11 13:39:35
                    RE: And nobody, but apparently you, suggested it did. - jrizzle MU - 5/11 14:20:27
                         And your point is? - MizzouTigerz MU - 5/11 14:34:34
                    It takes a special ability to - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 13:46:12
                         And you are expert at that inability. - MizzouTigerz MU - 5/11 13:48:12
               Getting an education is a component to one's character. - tiger4real MU - 5/11 13:32:07
                    APR doesn't measure education either - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 13:36:14
                         So why did you say something about it measuring character - MizzouTigerz MU - 5/11 13:41:43
                              RE: So why did you say something about it measuring character - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 13:43:09
                         Yes it does. - tiger4real MU - 5/11 13:39:24
                              Nope - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 13:41:50
                                   No. It tracks the progress of an athlete, as part of the - MizzouTigerz MU - 5/11 13:47:01
                                   Thank you for conceding. - tiger4real MU - 5/11 13:45:47
                                        Nope. - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 13:47:57
                                             He must have had the wrong tutor, right? - MizzouTigerz MU - 5/11 13:53:28
                                                  Apologies, I can't follow your tangents - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 13:54:38
                                                       I made a joke about Yolanda FIJI. Way way waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay - MizzouTigerz MU - 5/11 13:58:10
                                                       Yes, logic is a weak point for you. - MizzouTigerz MU - 5/11 13:56:26
                                             He didn't fail. And he had credits to take with him. - tiger4real MU - 5/11 13:49:36
                                                  Eligibility and retention. Those are the only 2 - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 13:52:26
                                                       I already explained that your misunderstanding is just that. - MizzouTigerz MU - 5/11 13:55:39
                                                       and neither of those are possible without an Education.nm - tiger4real MU - 5/11 13:54:51
     We had Kim Anderson as our coach. that is punishment enough(nm) - NWMizzouFan MU - 5/11 11:33:14
     According to this, the practice time penalties appear to - tgr MU - 5/11 09:34:03
          So there's a lot of unnecessary fretting by Mizzou fans - hou4mu MU - 5/11 10:57:43
     RE: APR question: i saw in an article that there are levels - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 09:30:06
          RE: APR question: i saw in an article that there are levels - Big Ray 2 USA - 5/11 12:09:52
               I know, you seem very mis-informed on the topic (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 12:11:40
          Did Sterk say Kumar's allegations didn't impact basketball? - alstl MU - 5/11 10:40:58
               kumar is holding on to her story for a long ass time(nm) - ajpe53 MU - 5/11 10:43:00
                    Her motives are suspicious but I don't doubt she was doing - alstl MU - 5/11 10:48:06
                         RE: Her motives are suspicious but I don't doubt she was doing - Big Ray 2 USA - 5/11 12:13:16
                              Too late - she has already been interviewed - the problem - alstl MU - 5/11 13:30:21
                              She didn't shut up, she already talked - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 12:18:40
                                   Right. And didn't she already meet with the NCAA? (nm) - TheLegend MU - 5/11 13:36:10
                                        RE: Right. And didn't she already meet with the NCAA? (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 13:36:52
                                   RE: She didn't shut up, she already talked - Big Ray 2 USA - 5/11 12:46:14
                                        Really? You seem pretty up to speed on the topic - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 12:50:08
                                             RE: Really? You seem pretty up to speed on the topic - Big Ray 2 USA - 5/11 12:56:51
                                                  Change your opinion? (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 12:59:02
                                                       RE: Change your opinion? (nm) - Big Ray 2 USA - 5/11 13:09:56
                                                            No, talking about this opinion: - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 13:17:45
                                                                 RE: No, talking about this opinion: - Big Ray 2 USA - 5/11 13:21:34
                                                                      Man, thought we were so close to a breakthrough there(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 13:28:57
                                                                           RE: Man, thought we were so close to a breakthrough there(nm) - Big Ray 2 USA - 5/11 14:22:08
                                        She's already talked to CBS Sports - February - doughboy MU - 5/11 12:48:03
                         probably true. she acts like a victim though when she was - ajpe53 MU - 5/11 10:50:12
                              They are probably going to drag this out for as long as - Rabbit Test MU - 5/11 10:52:39
          rare video of fiji explaining APR - dont remember MU - 5/11 10:09:38
          From my understanding our worst year which was Haith's - TheWildcat STL - 5/11 09:31:42
               Still one more year with it unfortunately (nm) - TheLegend MU - 5/11 10:01:32
               Incorrect - Mormad MU - 5/11 09:55:27
                    Yes, you are. - MizzouTigerz MU - 5/11 12:42:01
                         No, I'm not - Mormad MU - 5/11 13:44:35
                              assuing your numbers are correct, you are both basically - alwaysright MU - 5/11 18:14:30
                         who do you believe was a malcontent/criminal? (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 12:44:51
                              Torren Jones. DeAngelo Allen. Jakeenan Gant. - haeffb MU - 5/11 16:10:25
               Correct, Haith's last season of zero wins was also - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 5/11 09:41:21
                    There were APR concerns when Kim arrived, the APR was even - tigerdb MU - 5/11 11:03:58
                         Our multiyear score when Kim arrived was 979 - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 11:12:55
                         simply not true, remember no Kim=no Coach Martin=no MPJr(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 5/11 11:04:48
                    So will you admit that the 2016 score is 100% on Anderson - tgr MU - 5/11 10:37:51
                         Kim's entire tenure was spent cleaning up the Haith craterin - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 5/11 10:52:40
                              Kim should have spent his career recruiting talent & winning - tigerdb MU - 5/11 11:57:12
                                   he definitely exceeded expectations relative to what he - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 5/11 12:13:33
                                        I really hope that you don't believe 1/10th of the bat**** - tigerdb MU - 5/11 12:38:39
                                        Wrong, He drastically underperformed in every way - JimD MU - 5/11 12:30:53
                                             took a zero win team with a post season ban - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 5/11 13:30:45
                                                  Timelines may not be your strong suit (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 13:32:14
                                             Exceeding expectations is reletive - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 12:35:00
                              LOL (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 5/11 11:49:32
                              Can you link to a few of these "expert predictions" that MU - JoplinTiger07 MU - 5/11 11:10:26
                                   RE: Can you link to a few of these "expert predictions" that MU - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 5/11 11:15:49
                                        i.e. you can't, because there aren't any. NM - JoplinTiger07 MU - 5/11 13:46:58
                                        Here are the only results I found of people predicting - tgr MU - 5/11 11:33:16
                                             I think we could have been a high seed next year - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 12:09:57
                                                  I can believe 14-seed, maybe, but 13-seed is stretching... - JoplinTiger07 MU - 5/11 13:48:14
                    Lack of wins does not impact APR - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 09:42:36
               Agree, many people similarly don't understand - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 09:35:31
                    And how would that change opinions of Haith? (nm) - TheLegend MU - 5/11 10:04:34
                         Many MU fans mistakenly believe Haith left - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 11:39:02
                              So Mizzou delaying the APR hits changes the narrative how? - TheLegend MU - 5/11 12:56:53
                                   I don't follow, they didn't delay any APR hits(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 12:57:57
                                        My bad, I thought you said we delayed some sort of APR hit - TheLegend MU - 5/11 13:04:57
                                             No. We created a narrative that the 851 score is - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 13:08:43
                                                  Who cares? I think most know who recruited various kids (nm) - TheLegend MU - 5/11 13:10:20
                                                       Me I guess. MU put itself on probation and vacated - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 13:15:13
                                                            I guess I can see that especially if you are a fan of Haith - TheLegend MU - 5/11 13:40:08
                                                                 Fair enough. I'm just a big fan of MU bb. Haith used to - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 13:44:14
                    We actually need 963 next year - Mormad MU - 5/11 10:00:24
                         Its not evenly weighted. If you do that to our scores - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 10:01:50
                              So you're saying you do a "universal" calculation - Mormad MU - 5/11 10:06:59
                                   Agreed (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 11:00:24
                    Which 3 guys are you talking about? (nm) - hou4mu MU - 5/11 09:40:25
                         Rector, Jones, Beidschied (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 09:40:39
                              Rector and Jones have to be in 2013-14 - hou4mu MU - 5/11 09:49:45
                                   right, its simply a way of controlling the narrative - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 10:00:50
                                        RE: right, its simply a way of controlling the narrative - bornoncampus MU - 5/11 11:01:19
                                        Agreed, you're trying to control the narrative(nm) - Mizzmi27 MU - 5/11 10:26:31
                                        Let's say Jaocby Kemp leaves Mizzou - hou4mu MU - 5/11 10:17:00
                                             Agreed. That hypothetical hit to APR would be from Cuonzo's - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 12:02:49
                                                  No one cares who's tenure it happened during - Mizzmi27 MU - 5/11 12:50:01
                                                       So who hit the iceberg vs. who jumped ship before impact? - TheLegend MU - 5/11 12:58:32
                                                            Lol, yeah. "The boat did not sink while the captain was - Mizzmi27 MU - 5/11 13:09:47
                                                  Let me get this straight - hou4mu MU - 5/11 12:37:34
                                                       Yes. He is currently earning max APR points - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 12:40:24
                                                            I hope you have more mainstream views on responsibility - hou4mu MU - 5/11 12:50:54
                                                                 They are not currently impacting an APR calculation (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 12:53:15
                                             And that's why he should just stfu or go away. This place - Uncle John MU - 5/11 10:25:15
                                                  There isn't a chance in hell of that happening - hou4mu MU - 5/11 10:34:24
                                                       Cutting fiji out would be an upgrade for Tigerboard. - bornoncampus MU - 5/11 10:47:05
                                                            That isn't very nice, sorry my opinions frustrate you(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 11:22:41
                                        Haith recruited them - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/11 10:07:12
                                        And this is your attempt to control the narrative in the - Mormad MU - 5/11 10:04:26
                                             Agree, I'm doing my best. Would like for that to be more - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 10:58:19
                                                  Gee, I wonder why you're not getting anywhere (nm) - hou4mu MU - 5/11 11:11:42
                                                       You may notice many of the more insightful readers - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 11:15:29
                                                            Thanks for the report from Fantasy Island (nm) - hou4mu MU - 5/11 11:24:25
                                             Yeah, I don't get how this would change the opinion of Haith - TheLegend MU - 5/11 10:08:23
                                                  Neither were very good coaches at Mizzou - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/11 10:12:51
                                        So in your mind, the player's that haith recruited but left - ajpe53 MU - 5/11 10:03:19
                                             Its not about fault. (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 10:57:30
                                                  Yeah, it'd be silly to talk about whose fault it is...(nm) - Mizzmi27 MU - 5/11 13:11:21
                    wrong again(nm) - Uncle John MU - 5/11 09:39:38
                         Thanks for the clarification (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 09:40:53
                    Not according to Gabe. (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 5/11 09:37:19
                         Well its not really up for debate - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 09:38:19
               Feej won't like that, Haif is his boy(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 5/11 09:33:20
     4 year average gas to be above 930 - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/11 09:28:43




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