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Posted on: April 14, 2017 at 09:21:44 CT
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Afghanistan? It created a vacuum, a power struggle, and created Isis.

We left troops in Europe to stabilize it after World War II. You could argue that they are not needed there today, but they were in 1945. And 1965. And through the cold war.

Similarly, North Korea is a dangerous and destabilizing force with nuclear weapons. We fought a war there. If we had left… a vacuum, and the creation of a new and dangerous situation.

A question for you, what do you think would have happened between 1955 and now, if we had vacated the Korean peninsula? Stability, peace, harmony, what would have happened to Japan?

How big and how aggressive would china and North Korea be? What of the trade and the economic implications of a communist Korean Peninsula?

We needed to be there. We still do.

Edited by hokie at 09:22:23 on 04/14/17
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Question for libs and pickle. If NKorea attacks Japan or - hefeweizen MU - 4/14 08:13:44
     RE: Question for libs and pickle. If NKorea attacks Japan or - sarasotatiger MU - 4/14 09:42:55
     If pickle really believes that the world's people should - tigerNkc KC - 4/14 08:48:51
          I don't know how I can make my positions any clearer for you - pickle MU - 4/14 08:57:43
               If US bases are attacked by NKorea, is that an act of war?(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 4/14 08:58:34
                    Is it an act of war? Sure. Is it initiation or resp./defense - pickle MU - 4/14 09:00:53
                         No, they are clearly NOT in the US but they are US property - hefeweizen MU - 4/14 09:03:31
                              How could I know they are clearly not in the US - pickle MU - 4/14 09:04:58
                                   lol, goddam. Why do you do this? It was a very - hefeweizen MU - 4/14 09:07:00
                                        Yes, it was a straightforward question - pickle MU - 4/14 09:10:20
                                             goddam man, this is why nobody takes you seriously. The - hefeweizen MU - 4/14 09:12:38
                                                  I'm sorry you're struggling to express yourself - pickle MU - 4/14 09:22:50
                                                       what an a**hole you are when faced with a quandary(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 4/14 09:28:18
                                                            You mess with the pickle.... you get the🦄 - Emoji Man MSU - 4/14 09:56:37
                                                            What quandary??? (nm) - pickle MU - 4/14 09:40:18
                                                                 self defense, property rights, natural rights etc etc. (nm) - hefeweizen MU - 4/14 09:42:09
                                                                      There's no quandary here, Reino. - pickle MU - 4/14 09:49:49
                                                       🦄 WELCOME TO PICKLETOPIA 🦄 - Emoji Man MSU - 4/14 09:24:22
     Why do you think the US would be targeted? - Silas MU - 4/14 08:32:38
          That's not an answer to my question(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 4/14 08:37:47
               It is the basis to your question. I am questioning the false - Silas MU - 4/14 08:39:56
                    No, that is a pussy, cop out answer. Of course it is a - hefeweizen MU - 4/14 08:41:36
                         Why not provide a well thought out, reasoned approach to the - Silas MU - 4/14 08:43:26
                              dont respond if you are too ****ing stupid to answer(nm) - MizSecZou MU - 4/14 08:46:59
                              this is so dumb. It is a hypothetical question that doesnt - hefeweizen MU - 4/14 08:44:50
                                   Ask a relevant question. - Silas MU - 4/14 08:46:07
                                        goddam, lol(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 4/14 08:46:34
                                        Create a new handle... - MizSecZou MU - 4/14 08:46:31
     Troops immediately leave the area and come back to the USA. - Evenflow MU - 4/14 08:30:19
          So if attacked there, no response?(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 4/14 08:38:16
               Love the NEOCON hat you're wearing this morning.(nm) - Evenflow MU - 4/14 08:42:27
                    huh? I simply asked a question. I haven"t given my opinion - hefeweizen MU - 4/14 08:42:56
                         If attacked (or certainly before) I would close the bases - Evenflow MU - 4/14 08:45:45
                              fair enough. That's an an answer(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 4/14 08:46:22
                                   It's the same answer he gave before (nm) - pickle MU - 4/14 08:48:17
                                        I just wanted clarification. Why are you being obtuse?(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 4/14 08:49:52
                                             No one in this thread but you is being obtuse (nm) - pickle MU - 4/14 08:58:08
                                                  I asked a simple question, part of which you chose to ignore - hefeweizen MU - 4/14 08:59:31
                                                       No one has ignored any part of your question - pickle MU - 4/14 09:02:19
                                                            you did below. Totally ignored part of my question. Why - hefeweizen MU - 4/14 09:04:14
                                                                 No I didn't (nm) - pickle MU - 4/14 09:07:07
                                                                      Why are you being dishonest? - hefeweizen MU - 4/14 09:08:45
                                                                           I'm not. (nm) - pickle MU - 4/14 09:10:42
                                                                                yes you are. Why? I have no idea. I suspect it is because - hefeweizen MU - 4/14 09:14:16
                                                                                     Not at all. - pickle MU - 4/14 09:24:30
                                                                                          Sure I do and the reason why you are being a ***** is - hefeweizen MU - 4/14 09:30:02
                                                                                               No, you don't. And how am I being an a**hole? - pickle MU - 4/14 09:41:36
                                                                                                    you are being an a**hole by purposely ignoring the - hefeweizen MU - 4/14 09:44:21
                                                                                                         I haven't ignored your question - pickle MU - 4/14 09:50:36
               He just gave you the response (nm) - pickle MU - 4/14 08:38:39
          A brain washed battle for the centuries (nm) - ummmm MU - 4/14 08:31:57
     Pickle--assume fetal poisiton and apologize - mu7176grad MU - 4/14 08:28:54
          Don't be stupid (nm) - pickle MU - 4/14 08:31:37
               You dominate the stupid category - mu7176grad MU - 4/14 08:45:02
                    Iran - pickle MU - 4/14 08:47:41
     We should draw some redlines, make some speeches, go to - hokie VT - 4/14 08:27:01
     Remove all US troops and craft and close all US bases (nm) - pickle MU - 4/14 08:24:13
          Your world view is so comically stupid I'm having a hard - Emoji Man MSU - 4/14 08:43:53
               You don't know anything about my world view - pickle MU - 4/14 08:49:45
                    As you near 170k posts I think everyone has a pretty good - Emoji Man MSU - 4/14 08:59:14
                    a border-less world. We should help those less fortunate in - tigerNkc KC - 4/14 08:52:50
                         Wrong - pickle MU - 4/14 09:03:44
          That's not an answer to my question(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 4/14 08:36:43
               It is. Q: what should the US do if... - pickle MU - 4/14 08:38:02
                    Just so I get this right, the US bases are attacked and your - hefeweizen MU - 4/14 08:40:34
                         Do I need to draw you a picture? - pickle MU - 4/14 08:45:35
                         Your original question does not make that specification, but - ummmm MU - 4/14 08:42:58
                              yes it does, learn to read(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 4/14 08:49:28
                                   No, it doesn't (nm) - ummmm MU - 4/14 08:51:59
                                        learn to read - hefeweizen MU - 4/14 08:53:10
                                             I read that part. It does not say that US bases are - ummmm MU - 4/14 08:55:40
                                                  what? lol. It cannot be any clearer. It says most likely - hefeweizen MU - 4/14 09:01:19
                                                       Is an attack on a US base an attack on Japan? (nm) - ummmm MU - 4/14 09:03:18
                                                            The probably consider it to be. Would you consider it an - hefeweizen MU - 4/14 09:08:06
                                                                 If the attack is on the US base, I would consider it - ummmm MU - 4/14 09:08:45
                                                                      ok, and your response would be what?(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 4/14 09:09:37
                                                                           LMFAO. Goddamn, Reino (nm) - pickle MU - 4/14 09:12:17
                                                                           Remove the troops, close the base, bring the people and - ummmm MU - 4/14 09:11:41
                                                                                ok, fair enough. Do you think that response would encourage - hefeweizen MU - 4/14 09:15:51
                                                                                     Discourage. The whole military would be here waiting. - ummmm MU - 4/14 09:17:05
                                                                                          So, you would leave Japan and SKorea to their own devices?(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 4/14 09:20:05
                                                                                               Not in those terms, but yes. Japanese and South Koreans - ummmm MU - 4/14 09:23:23
                                                                                                    In my hypothetical, wouldnt it be the US' business if their - hefeweizen MU - 4/14 09:31:13
                                                                                                         But as people have pointed out about 20 times in this thread - ummmm MU - 4/14 09:35:55
                                                                                                              ok. That response just seems to contradict what some here - hefeweizen MU - 4/14 09:39:34
                                                                                                                   No it doesn't. How???? (nm) - pickle MU - 4/14 09:54:06
                                   "If NKorea attacks Japan or SKorea..." - pickle MU - 4/14 08:50:47
                                        why did you stop quoting the entire question? (nm) - hefeweizen MU - 4/14 08:52:13
                                             Because that was enough to show you're wrong - pickle MU - 4/14 08:59:04
                                                  huh? Does the US have bases, personel, planes, ships - hefeweizen MU - 4/14 09:05:20
                                                       What do you mean"huh"? Yes, it does. (nm) - pickle MU - 4/14 09:11:26
                                                            lol, why do you do this instead of just answering the - hefeweizen MU - 4/14 09:17:54
                                                                 I've directly answered every one of your questions - pickle MU - 4/14 09:25:16
                                                                      you are being an a**hole on purpose. why? I have - hefeweizen MU - 4/14 09:33:51
                                                                           You have got to be kidding me - pickle MU - 4/14 09:42:28
                                                                                by purposely ignoring all of my question(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 4/14 09:45:46
                                                                                     I haven't ignored it. You asked a question and I answered it - pickle MU - 4/14 09:51:16
     Nothing. - ummmm MU - 4/14 08:23:58
     In other words - El-ahrairah KC - 4/14 08:20:13
          That's not an answer to my question. How is this so - hefeweizen MU - 4/14 08:21:34
               It's not. You're the one making it difficult - pickle MU - 4/14 08:47:18
                    no, my question was very simple. His answer was to withdraw - hefeweizen MU - 4/14 08:48:54
                         no, his answer was to withdraw period(nm) - MizzouAstro MU - 4/14 08:57:08
                              This isnt back to the future. My OP was very clear. The - hefeweizen MU - 4/14 09:10:52
                                   So was his answer (nm) - pickle MU - 4/14 09:39:54
                                        no. His answer was to go back in time and close - hefeweizen MU - 4/14 09:41:07
                                             No it wasn't (nm) - pickle MU - 4/14 09:51:45
                                   your OP was completely different than what you are trying - MizzouAstro MU - 4/14 09:23:58
                                        Nope. The OP is very clear to anyone with any sense. It puts - hefeweizen MU - 4/14 09:36:45
                                             None of that has happened, Reino (nm) - pickle MU - 4/14 09:52:56
               TAKE THE TROOPS OUT OF THERE YOU FOOL. - GA Tiger MU - 4/14 08:26:43
                    If they are attacked just remove troops? no response? That - hefeweizen MU - 4/14 08:37:18
                         I'm assuming our troops wouldn't be directly attacked. But - GA Tiger MU - 4/14 08:38:48
                              My OP clearly states that they would have been attacked. - hefeweizen MU - 4/14 08:45:42
     RE: Question for libs and pickle. If NKorea attacks Japan or - sarasotatiger MU - 4/14 08:19:38
          Get the hell out and let China deal with it. How on earth - GA Tiger MU - 4/14 08:30:15
     We should have had our troops out of there decades ago. - GA Tiger MU - 4/14 08:18:37
          Our troops are the reason that there has been no conflict, - hokie VT - 4/14 08:23:57
               I need an explanation. Ignoring our monumental costs - GA Tiger MU - 4/14 08:28:42
                    Maybe nothing. If we sit as dumb spectators and watch - hokie VT - 4/14 08:46:42
                         All you did was ask questions. Give me substance - GA Tiger MU - 4/14 09:16:18
                              No need to get snarky. This is a serious issue - hokie VT - 4/14 09:25:03
          That's a very stupid answer since it doesnt answer - hefeweizen MU - 4/14 08:19:59
               I realize that. But since you bring it up, why - GA Tiger MU - 4/14 08:24:14
                    What happened when our pansy in chief pulled out of - hokie VT - 4/14 09:21:44
                    Our bases shouldve been closed decades ago but they are - hefeweizen MU - 4/14 08:51:33




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