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Philosophy is a funny thing, ummmm. Be careful. If you

Posted on: February 1, 2017 at 12:03:00 CT
90Tiger STL
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watch a nation state build a powerful deadly force and they imply impending doom to you in some manner subtly or overtly, I'm going to use my moral compass to render my own judgment on "imminent", lest I never have the chance to do so in the future b/c I'm dead.
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No one has a right to use/initiate force - pickle MU - 2/1 10:40:28
     does that stop them? and what happens when someone does?(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/1 11:21:37
          RE: does that stop them? and what happens when someone does?(nm) - pickle MU - 2/1 11:53:17
               no, that's what happened, what happens to the infirnger?(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/1 12:42:22
                    I just told you that's unanswerable - pickle MU - 2/1 12:58:39
                         why is it unanswerable? - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/1 13:10:20
                              "A person is infringed on. What happens?" - pickle MU - 2/1 13:51:22
          Fear of being arrested...oh, wait. (nm) - Tigrrrr! MU - 2/1 11:30:41
     you have a right to use force to prevent someone - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 2/1 11:13:26
          You are correct - ummmm MU - 2/1 11:23:33
               you are correct and imminent works on a scale - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 2/1 11:28:56
                    Your second example - pickle MU - 2/1 11:50:16
                         incorrect, the reasonable conclusion can be drawn that - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 2/1 11:51:47
                              If you really wanted to go with reasonable conclusions - pickle MU - 2/1 11:57:28
                    RE: you are correct and imminent works on a scale - ummmm MU - 2/1 11:35:04
                         incorrect and illogical - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 2/1 11:38:45
                              And by the way, let's make one thing clear - ummmm MU - 2/1 11:44:02
                                   irrelevant to the argument - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 2/1 11:47:08
                                        It's pretty relevant to your cavalier attitude - ummmm MU - 2/1 11:55:33
                                             incorrect, it is not my "attitude" it is a factual statement - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 2/1 11:59:25
                                             he isn't being cavalier - FootballRefugee MU - 2/1 11:57:42
                              No, you cannot. In that scenario, you are the aggressor. (nm) - ummmm MU - 2/1 11:42:44
                                   Philosophy is a funny thing, ummmm. Be careful. If you - 90Tiger MU - 2/1 12:03:00
                                   boy, you're dumb as a bag of hammers. - FootballRefugee MU - 2/1 11:45:42
                                   incorrect, I do not have to wait for force to be used - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 2/1 11:44:46
                                        You have to wait until force is imminent. - ummmm MU - 2/1 11:54:57
                                             when is a nuclear weapon with long-range capabilities - 90Tiger MU - 2/1 12:08:42
                    You certainly do if it's not your country. (nm) - Newcatbirdseat MU - 2/1 11:33:11
                         incorrect, a country can enter into voluntary agreements to - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 2/1 11:39:47
                              It is impossible for gvmt to do so - pickle MU - 2/1 11:55:30
                         ^^^Oops. Well, that was his most lucid post of all time - Evenflow MU - 2/1 11:34:26
          Yes, though that is not an initiation of force - pickle MU - 2/1 11:22:34
     RE: No one has a right to use force - MOCO SON MU - 2/1 11:04:59
          I didn't speak of any "excluded groups" (nm) - pickle MU - 2/1 11:06:19
               RE: I didn't speak of any "excluded groups" (nm) - MOCO SON MU - 2/1 11:07:13
                    Have a good day, DOC (nm) - pickle MU - 2/1 11:11:38
                         RE: Have a good day, DOC (nm) - MOCO SON MU - 2/1 11:13:37
     Wrong board (nm) - MIZ45 MU - 2/1 11:03:02
     So, darth vader is evil, and wrong? - RHAYWORTH MU - 2/1 10:55:08
     what about using the Force? (nm) - TigerJackSwartz MU - 2/1 10:46:32
          Here you go. - catbirdseat MU - 2/1 10:58:39
     Right - catbirdseat MU - 2/1 10:45:59
          That is exactly why rights exist. - ummmm MU - 2/1 10:47:16
               If such bright lines cannot acceptably be crossed - TigerJackSwartz MU - 2/1 10:48:33
                    Not everyone is informed about rights, especially property - pickle MU - 2/1 10:59:32
                         You can pretty much sum up TJS and catbirdseat as follows: - ummmm MU - 2/1 11:05:39
                              Pretty much - pickle MU - 2/1 11:10:59
                    he means those lines shouldn't be crossed without - 90Tiger MU - 2/1 10:56:57
                    Because people enjoy short cuts - ummmm MU - 2/1 10:56:16
                    Except by congress and the president - catbirdseat MU - 2/1 10:51:39
                         No (nm) - pickle MU - 2/1 10:59:46
                         govt always infringes on rights, every day - that - 90Tiger MU - 2/1 10:57:41
                         No. (nm) - ummmm MU - 2/1 10:56:32
     Might makes right, pussy! - Emoji Man MSU - 2/1 10:43:38
     What about when people have used force?(nm) - TheWildcat STL - 2/1 10:41:59
          What do you mean? (nm) - pickle MU - 2/1 10:57:07
          Lock them in a cage, throw away the key. (nm) - Tigrrrr! MU - 2/1 10:44:27
               Like white slavers?(nm) - catbirdseat MU - 2/1 10:46:31
                    Like prison guards (nm) - Tigrrrr! MU - 2/1 10:47:41
                         Nazi Presidential appointees?(nm) - catbirdseat MU - 2/1 10:52:30
                              Like prison guards dealing with criminals. - Tigrrrr! MU - 2/1 11:16:08
                                   kkk church burners?(nm) - catbirdseat MU - 2/1 12:41:21




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