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Governments are great killers. why do they kill?

Posted on: January 5, 2017 at 13:52:30 CT

Mizzou Lou KC

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if you take away current societal laws, will murder end? Will we live as individuals or will societies reform under new banners based on some commonality? will there be no battles for land and resources?

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I will never post to Tigerboard again - pickle MU

- 1/5 12:19:10

wrong planet(nm) - tigerNkc KC - 1/5 14:28:48

Have you read or studied... - kp83 MU - 1/5 13:32:56

Deeply flawed view of monarchy and belief that men are - TigerMatt STL - 1/5 13:48:13

No, why? (nm) - pickle MU

- 1/5 13:42:02

Blackstone is a horrible example to use since he was firmly - TigerMatt STL - 1/5 13:59:20

You'll just ignore the evidence, like you always do. - RHAYWORTH MU - 1/5 13:22:24

No one has ever provided evidence (nm) - pickle MU

- 1/5 13:38:03

No evidence you'll accept. - RHAYWORTH MU - 1/5 13:45:56

No one has ever provided evidence - pickle MU

- 1/5 13:47:52

it's not legitimate, move on. (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 1/5 14:07:18

Could you just not post then....ever again? (nm) - MUGuy2004 STL - 1/5 13:39:20

Straw man - Mizzou Lou KC - 1/5 13:36:38

It's the until then that everyone hates about you - MUGuy2004 STL - 1/5 13:18:36

You wouldn't be able to interact with any human beings - mizzouSECedes STL - 1/5 13:00:27

The specific definition of citizen is clear from the - TigerMatt STL - 1/5 13:19:21

Human beings are citizens of many things - mizzouSECedes STL - 1/5 13:25:43

He'll step right up for the stuff that goes with being one - MUGuy2004 STL - 1/5 13:32:36

If there were only two people on earth - TigerJackSwartz MU

- 1/5 13:03:06

No - mizzouSECedes STL - 1/5 13:06:51

that's a very broad definition of citizen, which is - TigerJackSwartz MU

- 1/5 13:09:31

I can't help that pickle doesn't know - mizzouSECedes STL - 1/5 13:11:29

in pickletopics, all definitions are open for debate. (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 1/5 13:10:49

Not really open for debate - Mizzou Lou KC - 1/5 13:34:08

Sad (nm) - pickle MU

- 1/5 13:11:55

get a life (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 1/5 13:26:04

Legitimate to whom? I would say that the State's claim of - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 1/5 12:59:34

Go to Cuba and argue it with the Cuban Government... - Salty Dog MU

- 1/5 12:42:16

what would make it legitimate? (nm) - TigerJackSwartz MU

- 1/5 12:40:36

Given that we are all free men with self-ownership - pickle MU

- 1/5 12:56:14

free men with self-ownership chose to use that freedom - tigerinhogtown STL - 1/5 14:08:16

Nothing. A state exists only through subjugation of people - TigerMatt STL - 1/5 12:49:54

the "state" exists that way, huh? remove The State and you'l - Mizzou Lou KC - 1/5 13:23:05

What is greed? Can you define it for me? (nm) - pickle MU

- 1/5 13:40:04

Excessive desire to a level that results in infringements - Mizzou Lou KC - 1/5 13:49:15

Ok. First of all, thank you for answering - pickle MU

- 1/5 13:56:25

"Who decides when desire is excessive' - Mizzou Lou KC - 1/5 14:09:11

Madeleine Albright dismissing the death of 1 million Iraqis - TigerMatt STL - 1/5 13:37:35

Governments are great killers. why do they kill? - Mizzou Lou KC - 1/5 13:52:30

So pickle is asking proof of something that can't be proven? - TigerJackSwartz MU

- 1/5 12:50:59

People claim we are citizens and that citizenship - pickle MU

- 1/5 12:58:22

I know, and I am asking what kind of evidence would - TigerJackSwartz MU

- 1/5 13:00:14

Something that would support the State's claim (nm) - pickle MU

- 1/5 13:05:38

But there is evidence, in the form of the 14th amendment - TigerJackSwartz MU

- 1/5 13:11:41

Right in front of you, in those very words.. subjugation.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 1/5 13:14:40

No, that's just another claim - pickle MU

- 1/5 13:12:46

So what type of information would give the state's claim - TigerJackSwartz MU

- 1/5 13:15:52

Depends on the claim - pickle MU

- 1/5 13:49:52

LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME!!!!!! - Tigrrrr! MU

- 1/5 12:40:03

Promises, promises (nm) - Fourth and Long MU - 1/5 12:31:20

Go for it (nm) - pickle MU

- 1/5 12:37:06

RE: I will never post to Tigerboard again - MOCO SON MU - 1/5 12:29:17

Pick up a gun and defend your position - TGR84 MU - 1/5 12:24:57

So the state's legitimacy is that it can back itself through - TigerMatt STL - 1/5 12:36:45

Not agreeing with you, I just like watching stupid - TGR84 MU - 1/5 12:31:24

You just did, though - pickle MU

- 1/5 12:35:44

Sounds like you're agreeing with me (nm) - pickle MU

- 1/5 12:29:11

What is the state's claim to legitmacy other than it says - TigerMatt STL - 1/5 12:26:20

it isn't legitimate - now what? what's the next point and - 90Tiger MU - 1/5 12:29:01

The point is education, 90 (nm) - pickle MU

- 1/5 12:30:18

to what end? rask has proven that knowledge on its - 90Tiger MU - 1/5 12:31:22

Liberty. To the end of abolishing the State - pickle MU

- 1/5 12:34:56

I'm not put out by liberty you presumptuous arrogant dork, - 90Tiger MU - 1/5 12:44:26

^^^can't not read posts^^^(nm) - cnk ATL - 1/5 12:56:28

better written "is compelled to read posts" (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 1/5 13:01:29

yeah, but the way I said it was to convey that I was being - cnk ATL - 1/5 13:08:17

i'm not smart enough to handle your posts (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 1/5 13:11:48

Was that presumptuous? - pickle MU

- 1/5 12:54:37

What was presumptuous? - 90Tiger MU - 1/5 13:00:53

nominated for POTY. it's early but a strong contender for - blake1771 KC - 1/5 12:48:48

Pick up a gun and defend your position - TGR84 MU - 1/5 12:28:59

You realize you're making my point, right? (nm) - pickle MU

- 1/5 12:31:30

And I may never if you can/will give definitions of - GA Tiger MU - 1/5 12:21:50

I'm not sure we're getting enough coverage on this. Can - 90Tiger MU - 1/5 12:21:07