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Posted on: December 20, 2016 at 13:19:42 CT

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They have done a great job at the state level of gerrymandering the districts. They clearly also knew where to play in the last election (see WI, PA, and Ohio). Clinton was well organized in..well..Clinton states...and the Dems are tying to use societal pressure to push their issues, not starting locally...which is why they are losing the rural vote big time.

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Anybody who says the EC didn't do their job - Sal KC - 12/20 12:58:39

Some of the disagreement comes over the expected role of - JeffB MU

- 12/20 13:20:58

Many are dismayed at the EC - meatiger MU - 12/20 13:12:51

' the Republican quiet ground game is working so well'... - JeffB MU

- 12/20 13:16:47

meatiger types more with less meaning and less understanding - 90Tiger MU - 12/20 13:20:25

I am talkung more about long term - meatiger MU - 12/20 13:19:42

Actually, raskolnikov told us that Trump had NO ground game - JeffB MU

- 12/20 13:28:42

well..I am not rask - meatiger MU - 12/20 13:37:23

So you assert that Trump had a better ground game than Hilla - JeffB MU

- 12/20 13:40:08

In hindsight - meatiger MU - 12/20 13:43:15

no, meatiger, he didn't have a better ground game at - 90Tiger MU - 12/20 14:35:35

That is why this is a discussion board - meatiger MU - 12/20 14:58:01

'more enthusiasm' =/= 'ground game', however. - JeffB MU

- 12/20 13:44:20

RE: 'more enthusiasm' =/= 'ground game', however. - meatiger MU - 12/20 13:45:40

I believe most of the political establishment defines the - JeffB MU

- 12/20 13:50:09

fair - meatiger MU - 12/20 13:51:28

it isn't "fair", it's the actual working definition, not som - 90Tiger MU - 12/20 14:39:05

Ah yes - meatiger MU - 12/20 15:01:21

I would say not... or it was Hillary's overwhelming advantag - JeffB MU

- 12/20 13:58:06

His backdrop of anti-establishment helped - meatiger MU - 12/20 14:00:47

Why would the FBI investigation have flipped Johnson support - JeffB MU

- 12/20 14:12:22

it didn't flip anything. people keep making the mistake that - 90Tiger MU - 12/20 14:39:58

How do you know? - meatiger MU - 12/20 14:59:21

the polls were wrong all along, meat (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/20 15:32:16

How do you know that to be true?(nm) - meatiger MU - 12/20 15:34:57

you mean by winning local elections - FootballRefugee MU

- 12/20 13:25:29

exactly(nm) - meatiger MU - 12/20 13:26:20

and so the people have spoken - FootballRefugee MU

- 12/20 13:27:43

gerrymandering? what impact did gerrymandering have on the 2 - 90Tiger MU - 12/20 13:21:26

I was referring to more than just the 2016 EC(nm) - meatiger MU - 12/20 13:22:24

that's news (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/20 13:22:51

I guarantee he has no idea what he just said. Just - GA Tiger MU - 12/20 13:18:56

this year didn't expose differences between popular and EC - 90Tiger MU - 12/20 13:13:53

RE: this year didn't expose differences between popular and EC - meatiger MU - 12/20 13:17:17

that isn't anything new and there isn't anything new exposed - 90Tiger MU - 12/20 13:22:36

How is that not new? - meatiger MU - 12/20 13:25:22

Largest margin based on votes or perecentage of votes?(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 12/20 13:38:18

either(nm) - meatiger MU - 12/20 13:43:35

most don't know what the role of the EC is and actually - 90Tiger MU - 12/20 13:06:17

Libs are like a three year old whose goldfish died. They - hokie VT - 12/20 13:02:06

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