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My point is that it is not logical for you to believe both

Posted on: December 17, 2016 at 16:11:14 CT
JeffB MU
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that

1. There is no God

AND

2. any of the following are "immoral"
- murder is immoral
- rape is immoral
- kidnapping is immoral
- theft is immoral

If a human being is just a random collection of molecules acting according to the laws of nature why would it be immoral for the random collection of molecules that make up 90Tiger to kill and eat a human baby but it is not immoral for a lion to kill and eat a human baby?

Why would it not be immoral for any other animal to force itself sexually on another animal but it is immoral for a random collection of molecules that makes up a human being to rape another human being (or any other animal)?

If it is not immoral for other animals to steal things from other animals, why is it immoral for the random collection of molecules making up a human being to do so?

If a random collection of molecules that makes up a boulder rolls down a hill and kills a family sleeping in their home is not immoral, why is it immoral for a random collection of molecules that makes up a human being immoral for killing that same family?
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Something else to be aware of now. - GA Tiger MU - 12/17 12:12:03
     Wrong board (nm) - pickle MU - 12/17 12:28:17
          Citizen's arrest! Citizen's arrest! - Tigrrrr! MU - 12/17 13:02:23
               I can just picture Gomer arresting Barney Fife(nm) - jmlppx MU - 12/17 13:10:58
          ðŸš”🚓🔫😲😠(nm) - jmlppx MU - 12/17 12:43:16
          For someone who hates police you sure covet the title of - JeffB MU - 12/17 12:31:46
               Someday you'll get something right - pickle MU - 12/17 12:38:02
                    same for you(nm) - Butcher of Bakersfield STL - 12/17 12:49:51
               also, jeff, pickle doesn't dislike law/order/morality it's - 90Tiger MU - 12/17 12:37:53
                    not true - Butcher of Bakersfield STL - 12/17 12:47:54
                         false - not accepting your theological paradigm - 90Tiger MU - 12/17 13:01:18
                              But if you believe that there is no God, and we are all just - JeffB MU - 12/17 13:07:24
                                   "objective rights"? I don't believe in god and I likely - 90Tiger MU - 12/17 13:13:31
                                        My point is that it is not logical for you to believe both - JeffB MU - 12/17 16:11:14
                                             You lack logic (nm) - pickle MU - 12/17 22:53:38
                                                  You have been offered multiple chances to explain how - JeffB MU - 12/17 23:23:07
                                             lol, yeah jeff, your religion created the concepts of morali - 90Tiger MU - 12/17 16:59:42
                                                  No. God, the creator of the universe and everything in it - JeffB MU - 12/17 23:28:03
                                             God, and logic, have NOTHING to do with each other. - GA Tiger MU - 12/17 16:49:21
                         He kind of believes in his own self defined morality and - JeffB MU - 12/17 12:49:29
                              he believes in naturalism and evolution for the existence of - Butcher of Bakersfield STL - 12/17 13:01:37
                    In pickle's view the state, the government and police are - JeffB MU - 12/17 12:47:16
               police uses force. pickle isn't (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/17 12:34:19




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