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i don't dance around the topic

Posted on: December 12, 2016 at 17:55:26 CT
pickle MU
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i have ALWAYS been directly clear on this

"I pointed out that when it comes to self defense, the initiator loses the right to claim self defense."

first, that's not what you said. second, it's not a loss of a right. you've gotten it wrong all around

Edited by pickle at 17:57:33 on 12/12/16
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Surge in drug-affected newborns driven by rural opioid use - Spanky KU - 12/12 15:50:49
     Saw something similar - El-ahrairah KC - 12/12 16:24:23
          The rationale of that is unassailable. Of course, - GA Tiger MU - 12/12 16:30:20
     Given the surety that many of the women were addicts - GA Tiger MU - 12/12 16:15:41
          simple, kill the mother and save the unborn (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/12 16:18:06
     Using drugs is victimless. assaulting your unborn through - 90Tiger MU - 12/12 15:53:27
          Can the unborn be a victim of assault? - Spanky KU - 12/12 15:54:23
               they have no rights - SuperTone MU - 12/12 16:01:25
                    I just find people inconsistent positions on this funny - tman KC - 12/12 16:06:15
                         Those aren't inconsistent or contradictory views (nm) - pickle MU - 12/12 16:22:36
                              Wrong. If they have no rights, they have none - tman KC - 12/12 16:31:08
                                   What you posted was not contradictory nor inconsistent - pickle MU - 12/12 16:40:09
                                        They are contradictory because no person, woman or man, - JeffB MU - 12/12 16:59:40
                                        You miss the point. It is not the crime against the woman. - TigerMatt STL - 12/12 16:42:46
                                             I'm not missing the point - pickle MU - 12/12 16:44:47
                                                  Your logic is flawed. If the unborn fetus has no rights - TigerMatt STL - 12/12 16:47:26
                                                       tman didn't say murder - pickle MU - 12/12 17:54:18
                                        Wrong. Go back to your basement utopia world(nm) - tman KC - 12/12 16:42:19
                                             Grow up, tman (nm) - pickle MU - 12/12 16:45:09
                                                  I have tried to have discussions - tman KC - 12/12 17:14:06
                                                       i would love to see a link (nm) - pickle MU - 12/12 17:58:16
                              Except, they are. It isnt up to the whims of the mother to - TigerMatt STL - 12/12 16:28:00
                         any position is inconsistent. If you claim to be a "right to - 90Tiger MU - 12/12 16:16:54
                              No. Both have rights. Those aren't inconsistent positions - tman KC - 12/12 16:36:37
                                   Give an example of an inconsistent position (nm) - pickle MU - 12/12 16:42:59
                              That is false on it's face.. The life of the mother is - Spanky KU - 12/12 16:34:12
                              It isn't ignored. It is secondary and I'll show you why. - TigerMatt STL - 12/12 16:26:56
                                   That's an all-around misunderstanding of rights - pickle MU - 12/12 16:42:08
                                        That is exactly what you claim when you say a woman - TigerMatt STL - 12/12 16:44:01
                                             I have never claimed that - pickle MU - 12/12 16:47:18
                                                  Just because you dance around the topic does not mean - TigerMatt STL - 12/12 16:49:03
                                                       i don't dance around the topic - pickle MU - 12/12 17:55:26
                                                            You are confused.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 12/12 18:17:38
                                   Ok, and the woman who smokes and drinks when pregnant - GA Tiger MU - 12/12 16:32:56
                                        Without direct evidence like fetal alcohol syndrome, I dont - TigerMatt STL - 12/12 16:36:04
                                             Apparently. I've never even seen it discussed.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 12/12 16:44:44
                              The inconsistency comes from the reality that none of us - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/12 16:19:26
                    pickle is wrong on this.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 12/12 16:04:12




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