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I consider both labels a dead end.

Posted on: December 4, 2016 at 19:05:01 CT
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Logical and philosophical proofs are only needed when scientific proofs are non-existent or currently failing.

Scientific proofs fail when logical and philosophical proofs are completely dismissed.

All must be in play, but if the starting point is: I have no idea THAT I am, there is no need to continue. The resulting philosophy and 'logic' and 'science' will be a dead end.

If the starting point is: I AM, then just that awareness will inform the scientific, philosophical and logical proofs, such is the massive number of awarenesses that flow from 'I AM'.

Always the discussion seems to involve 'GOD' & 'GOOD' & 'EVIL' and on and on.

Rarely does the discussion start with WHAT is doing the discussing, but without that tied down, it's another dead end.

Edited by RayKinsella1922 at 20:25:00 on 12/04/16
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Jill Stein needs to get in an oven - MUIntensity USA - 12/4 13:39:17
     You are an evil person (nm) - pickle MU - 12/4 13:52:45
          Actually, she needs to be shot. - FaurotFan MU - 12/4 14:41:41
               Being a hopeless idiot and making huge messes - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 12/4 16:31:49
          pot, meet kettle (nm) - Tigrrrr! MU - 12/4 14:20:38
          Somewhere there is a mirror image for the people joking - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 12/4 14:10:49
               It wasn't - pickle MU - 12/4 18:34:01
          according to your world view evil doesn't exist - Butcher of Bakersfield STL - 12/4 13:59:29
               According to my world view evil does exist. - pickle MU - 12/4 14:52:19
                    Morality is far too low level to be anything but - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 12/4 16:28:37
               There is no objective 'good' or 'evil' if there is no God. (nm) - JeffB MU - 12/4 14:02:14
                    lol, the acts what they are - the perspective of those acts - 90Tiger MU - 12/4 15:07:45
                         I'm not quite sure what you are trying to say here? - JeffB MU - 12/4 16:55:21
                    Unfortunately that's a bizarre connection. - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 12/4 14:17:11
                         I disagree on both counts, though I would say that - JeffB MU - 12/4 16:52:37
                              I consider both labels a dead end. - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 12/4 19:05:01
                    Not true. - MUIntensity USA - 12/4 14:13:55
                         You seem to agree 'good' and 'evil' are suboptimal terms at - JeffB MU - 12/4 16:49:57
     There are no racists or bigots in the GOP - JG MU - 12/4 13:50:22
          that is a lie - Butcher of Bakersfield STL - 12/4 14:03:40
               He's just showing he's a true conservative.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 12/4 14:05:50
     Is that a reference to her Jewish upbringing? Is it an - JeffB MU - 12/4 13:48:13
          Oddly, a different last name than her husband. Nm - hokie VT - 12/4 14:14:01
          She is a liar like her father the devil - MUIntensity USA - 12/4 14:07:39
               To quibble over methods is pointless (and in this case - GA Tiger MU - 12/4 14:34:36
               You jumble together several different topics for discussion - JeffB MU - 12/4 14:29:46
                    We killed our own people at the behest of world Jewry - MUIntensity USA - 12/4 14:53:10
                         It seems rather inconsistent to me for you to insist that - JeffB MU - 12/4 15:38:09
                         So these would be staged photos then? - GA Tiger MU - 12/4 15:15:31
                         Are you drunk? nm - hokie VT - 12/4 15:11:02
     RE: Jill Stein needs to get in an oven - JangoFett MU - 12/4 13:41:47




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