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If I may jump in, I am a big fan of incremental steps

Posted on: November 16, 2016 at 15:45:16 CT
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toward less government. I do cartwheels when I hear about Obama (of all people) commuting the sentences of drug offenders. That is an incremental step toward liberty, and it deserves to be cheered in isolation of what else the man has done.

In my opinion, one of the most important parts of maintaining a steadfast philosophy of liberty is to try and stretch the continuum to liberty's favor.

Ultimately (in the real world I hear so much about), decisions will be made as compromises between the competing masses of ideals. The present problem is that there are two major camps (R's) and (D's) and they are so far removed from liberty, that the compromises between them fall in ways that are not incrementally beneficial to liberty.

The more people who maintain steadfast libertarian ideals, the more likely there is a chance of steps, even incremental ones, toward lessening the overreaching burden of big government. That is why it is important to stand philosophical ground and not give in to temptations of being realistic. I mean, let's be realistic, even the pragmatic folks on this board have no effect on what's happening presently in DC. Also, calling people "idiots" is not and definitely does not have to be a part of being steadfast in your libertarian beliefs. To this day, I have never called one person on this board an idiot.

Also, everyone is an idealist. Pragmatic people are pragmatic because they think that is best way to be. I don't think anyone here (or anywhere) is trying to convince people to adopt a philosophy of negative ramifications or consequences. Everyone thinks they've determined how to best arrange society and political life, including you, pickle, me, GAT, raskolnikov, Sparky Stalcup, the board neocons and so forth.

Anyway, just my thoughts. I hope you don't depart the liberty movement over this election.
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podesta pedofile news take 2 - SEC_BIG_GAMEHUNTER MU - 11/16 14:08:37
     Damn. (nm) - JeffB MU - 11/16 15:49:49
     The real question for me is how wide does the FBI, NYPD - BigTime SEMO - 11/16 15:36:51
     There's plenty of real politics going on to follow, don't - 90Tiger MU - 11/16 14:25:06
          But i'm enjoying watching the Clinton camp - SEC_BIG_GAMEHUNTER MU - 11/16 14:26:23
               that isn't happening as a result of any of this pedophile - 90Tiger MU - 11/16 14:30:41
     Get your head out of altright ass - raskolnikov MU - 11/16 14:19:01
          where do the kidnapped children go? Why is human - SuperTone MU - 11/16 14:51:36
               So now the sufi is defending pedophiles and child sex slave - Uncle Fester USMC - 11/16 14:56:45
     Dude - pickle MU - 11/16 14:17:22
          look at that rat bastard...he just looks like - SEC_BIG_GAMEHUNTER MU - 11/16 14:25:14
               You aren't really showing you are (nm) - pickle MU - 11/16 14:29:18
          Why would child sex rings exist everywhere but - SuperTone MU - 11/16 14:18:35
               RE: Why would child sex rings exist everywhere but - pickle MU - 11/16 14:21:51
                    why won't you answer?(nm) - SuperTone MU - 11/16 14:50:58
                         Just wait for hard evidence. - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 11/16 14:59:45
                         I ignore straw man fallacies (nm) - pickle MU - 11/16 14:56:38
                              Your entire political perspective is a strawmn fallacy. - 90Tiger MU - 11/16 15:01:42
                                   RE: Your entire political perspective is a strawmn fallacy. - FootballRefugee MU - 11/16 15:47:12
                                   Wow (nm) - pickle MU - 11/16 15:08:33
                                        Sorry, pickle, but seriously. It's like convincing people to - 90Tiger MU - 11/16 15:09:37
                                             You've lost it (nm) - pickle MU - 11/16 15:14:40
                                                  apparently, I never had "it". Like I said, I admire your id - 90Tiger MU - 11/16 15:24:35
                                                       If I may jump in, I am a big fan of incremental steps - ummmm MU - 11/16 15:45:16
                                                            of course you may - FootballRefugee MU - 11/16 15:50:55
                                                       RE: apparently, I never had "it". Like I said, I admire your id - pickle MU - 11/16 15:25:59
                                                            I'm not moved by the matrix (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 11/16 15:36:52
                              it is a question. answer it.(nm) - SuperTone MU - 11/16 15:01:03
                                   It's a straw man (nm) - pickle MU - 11/16 15:01:41
                         RE: why won't you answer?(nm) - 90Tiger MU - 11/16 14:52:49
                              Don't turn into Jeff or Reino (nm) - pickle MU - 11/16 15:01:20
                                   stop unanswering direct questions with condescending - 90Tiger MU - 11/16 15:04:41
                                        Perhaps you should take a closer look - pickle MU - 11/16 15:12:46
               They don't(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 11/16 14:19:36
                    Yes they do. A link for you - SuperTone MU - 11/16 14:50:36
                         Oh I see. Report from the UK proves child sex rings are - raskolnikov MU - 11/16 18:55:27
                    LOL You supremely ignorant dumb sonofab#tch - Uncle Fester USMC - 11/16 14:41:50
                         Child Sex Rings exist EVERYWHERE ?? No(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 11/16 14:44:19
                              you may wish to revisit your previous post for clarity - 90Tiger MU - 11/16 14:47:18
                                   I said they don't friend "exist everywhere".(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 11/16 14:52:54
                                        i'm not your friend, pal - 90Tiger MU - 11/16 15:07:57
                                             So, you adopt hostility w/fellows w/whom you don't agree?(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 11/16 18:43:02
                                        Where is a place you think they don't exist?(nm) - SuperTone MU - 11/16 14:54:59
                                             Right, uh huh. Child sex rings, they're everywhere !!(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 11/16 15:01:57
                                                  where do you think they don't exist? what continent, nation, - 90Tiger MU - 11/16 15:05:20
                                                       RE: where do you think they don't exist? what continent, nation, - raskolnikov MU - 11/16 18:41:40
                                             At Grateful Dead concerts (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 11/16 14:55:51
                                                  And Art Galleries - Uncle Fester USMC - 11/16 14:58:58




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