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Posted on: November 4, 2016 at 10:41:20 CT
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A lot of the polls seem to try and save money by polling fewer people but trying to get a randomized effect by selecting rough percentages of whatever groups they think should be represented. There are allegations that some deliberately skew their samples to affect the polling results. That assertion is buttressed by the fact that emails Wikileaks has released show both a strong media bias in some mainstream media and instructions sent detailing how to skew those results.

In any event, most publish percentages of those in their polls claiming to be Democrats, Republicans or independents. Looking at those numbers vs the numbers in the population at large can show whether or not their sample is representative of the nation at large.

Per Gallup 29% of the voters describe themselves as Democrats & 26% as Republicans. http://www.gallup.com/poll/188096/democratic-republican-identification-near-historical-lows.aspx

Here's an article on Zerohedge noting the discrepancy in some of the polling numbers:

Latest Polls: ABC Manufactures A 3-Point "Lead" For Hillary As IBD/TIPP Still Sees A Dead Heat

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-04/latest-polls-abc-manufactures-3-point-lead-hillary-ibd-still-sees-dead-heat

The latest goal-seeking effort by the ABC / Washington Post found Hillary to have a 3-point national advantage against Trump despite her tanking in "trustworthiness" and her "voter enthusiasm" waning. Their latest poll included a 7-point democrat sampling advantage though we suspect there are other pro-democrat "ethnic oversamples" incorporated which ABC does not disclose.

This ABC News/Washington Post poll was conducted by landline and cellular telephone Oct. 30-Nov. 2, 2016, in English and Spanish, among a random national sample of 1,151 likely voters. Results have a margin of sampling error of 3 points, including the design effect. Partisan divisions are 37-30-29 percent, Democrats-Republicans-independents. ...
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On polling accuracy... - JeffB MU - 11/4 10:41:20
     I believe "voter enthusiasm" is going to be the key to this - DHighlander KC - 11/4 11:07:34
     How do you know what the partisan affiliation - Fat Drunk and Stupid MU - 11/4 10:46:16
          One simple way would be to compare the number of registered - DHighlander KC - 11/4 11:09:08
          They ask them. That's pretty much the business of polling - JeffB MU - 11/4 10:54:53
               Here's gallup explaning why they were wrong - Fat Drunk and Stupid MU - 11/4 10:59:21
                    That does not support your case. In fact, it supports mine.. - JeffB MU - 11/4 11:30:37
               Really man. this is basic stuff - Fat Drunk and Stupid MU - 11/4 10:57:17
                    What is ABC basing their breakdown on? It fits the pattern - JeffB MU - 11/4 11:13:30
                    Why do you think ABC has the correct breakdown? (nm) - Sal KC - 11/4 10:58:48
                         I don't. take the median or mean of the set of polls(nm) - Fat Drunk and Stupid MU - 11/4 10:59:43
                              gotcha (nm) - Sal KC - 11/4 11:07:00




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