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So Pickle, and you as his proxy have never claimed Natural

Posted on: October 28, 2016 at 12:36:24 CT
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Rights were valid?

Did you happen to read the original post?

If you believe that natural rights exist then you are the one that is not very bright. If it were natural for humans to not kill, steal or imprison others then why does it happen?

I would argue that the evidence points to just the opposite. It is natural for humans to kill, steal and imprison others so we have banded together and created an artificial system to stem those behaviors.

Naturally I want to protect myself and my offspring. To do that I may need to kill, steal or imprison others. If it means that me and mine live and prosper then that would be the natural thing to do. We do not do that because as a group we have agreed to a set of rules of behavior that often times work against the individuals best interest.
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Natural (i.e., of nature and not artificial) rights - pickle MU - 10/28 11:42:44
     like from God - yeah, that's the ticket(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 10/28 13:09:50
     U have the right to remain silent, but sadly not the ability - RHAYWORTH MU - 10/28 12:13:10
     All are human constructs. The only rights anyone has are - DHighlander KC - 10/28 11:49:26
          you're not describing rights. you're describing force. - 90Tiger MU - 10/28 11:53:18
               I never said that they were you imbecile. At least you were - DHighlander KC - 10/28 11:58:39
                    Just a terrible display of logic - pickle MU - 10/28 12:18:04
                         I always am when I read anything you post. You claim there - DHighlander KC - 10/28 12:26:54
                              A lucid response from pickle? Good luck with that. - RHAYWORTH MU - 10/28 12:43:49
                                   Sometimes it is fun to poke the bear. In this case the bear - DHighlander KC - 10/28 12:49:53
                    "rights only exist when you have power" - 90Tiger MU - 10/28 12:00:50
                         I can claim the right to have babies but without a womb it - DHighlander KC - 10/28 12:03:32
                              Claims of rights aren't rights, DH, hence why nobody here - 90Tiger MU - 10/28 12:05:19
                                   Claims of rights are all you have. What power grants rights? - DHighlander KC - 10/28 12:13:37
                                        RE: Claims of rights are all you have. What power grants rights? - 90Tiger MU - 10/28 12:25:04
                                             So Pickle, and you as his proxy have never claimed Natural - DHighlander KC - 10/28 12:36:24
                                                  I didn't "claim" a right. I stated natural rights were obse - 90Tiger MU - 10/28 12:49:17
                                                       So you do agree that natural rights are a human construct? - DHighlander KC - 10/28 12:52:38
                                                            RE: So you do agree that natural rights are a human construct? - 90Tiger MU - 10/28 13:12:23
                                                                 How do you observe a natural right to life when that life - DHighlander KC - 10/28 13:38:20
               Stick to physics????? - Evenflow MU - 10/28 11:54:51
     prove they exist (nm) - TigerJackSwartz MU - 10/28 11:44:29
          RE: prove they exist (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 10/28 11:51:54
               My position is that if you can't prove they exist - TigerJackSwartz MU - 10/28 11:52:37
                    I can't prove love, hate, or envy exist, I can only point to - 90Tiger MU - 10/28 11:55:01
                         does greed exist? (nm) - TigerJackSwartz MU - 10/28 11:56:45
                              are you ever going to participate in this discussion or is - 90Tiger MU - 10/28 12:01:37
                              no (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 10/28 12:01:03
          My existence is proof (nm) - pickle MU - 10/28 11:48:57
               But, do you really exist?(nm) - cnk ATL - 10/28 12:07:18
                    Ask me that - pickle MU - 10/28 12:07:56
                         real question - cnk ATL - 10/28 12:10:40
               All your existence proves is that your mom should have - DHighlander KC - 10/28 11:52:02
                    That's what I would expect a parasite to say (nm) - pickle MU - 10/28 11:55:52
                         Any discussion of rights is meaningless unless you have the - DHighlander KC - 10/28 12:01:58
                              Your first sentence is without logic - pickle MU - 10/28 12:07:26
                                   My sentence is perfectly logical to one with the ability to - DHighlander KC - 10/28 12:22:37
                                        It isn't. It's atrocious. (nm) - pickle MU - 10/28 12:31:27
                                             Then it should be simple for you to refute. I will await - DHighlander KC - 10/28 12:47:23
                                        A right is inherent - if someone steals from you, you still - 90Tiger MU - 10/28 12:31:06
                                             Inherent according to whom? You claim these natural rights - DHighlander KC - 10/28 12:41:46
               No(nm) - tigerdb MU - 10/28 11:51:56
               How does your existence prove you have a right to - TigerJackSwartz MU - 10/28 11:50:42
          LOL, OK, Hillary. - Evenflow MU - 10/28 11:48:33
          life, liberty, and property... - escalade NWMSU - 10/28 11:47:59




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