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Posted on: October 28, 2016 at 11:12:53 CT
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r something you actually acknowledge exists.

Natural rights aren't a physical entity, hence the only proof of their existence is philosophical and logical.


they exist because every human society in history acknowledges the right to life, property and liberty - the entirety of history is DEFINED by human beings infringing upon these rights and others protecting them.

All human conflict exists because of this inherent natural sense that it is an infringement to take someone else's life, property or liberty.

The fact that some humans, due to inherent flaw of psychology or learned behavior or dire need, infringe upon these rights doesn't imply the rights don't exist - it furthers the proof in that we all recognize and react to such infringements.

all moral code and legal code can be traced back to these common core "rights".


You can argue the philosophical terms all you want, but I challenge you to deny that human beings, NATURALLY are born with a sense of these rights. Tehy are not manufactured. They are inherent and natural to us.

WhY? That's a decision for religious philosphy v. nature.
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     ask woddy guthrie(nm) - escalade NWMSU - 10/28 11:31:07
          can I sell my part, can I exercise my property rights since - 90Tiger MU - 10/28 11:01:08
               Yes - JG A - 10/28 11:06:38
                    patently false (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 10/28 11:49:06
                         Except its true - JG A - 10/28 12:46:56
                    lmao wut? - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 10/28 11:15:31
                    That makes no sense at all (nm) - pickle MU - 10/28 11:12:49
                         See reply to Tigermatt - JG A - 10/28 11:33:04
                    Correct me if I'm wrong - but doesn't the gov't sell - TigerJackSwartz MU - 10/28 11:10:48
                         its a republic - JG A - 10/28 11:32:19
                              I think you can do better on this one (nm) - TigerJackSwartz MU - 10/28 11:36:51
                                   They at least axe for public comment - JG A - 10/28 11:39:14
                              Non-answer. More singing and dancing (nm) - pickle MU - 10/28 11:34:59
                                   Correct answer and then yes - JG A - 10/28 11:39:37
                    That makes absolutely no f**king sense. (nm) - TigerMatt MU - 10/28 11:08:59
                         To an idiot - JG A - 10/28 11:32:41
          Timestamp. It is owned by all of us? - pickle MU - 10/28 10:51:55
               That would include the Bundys, too. - Alferd Packer MU - 10/28 11:03:38
                    Not include, they are sole owners (nm) - pickle MU - 10/28 11:12:18
          RE: Why do you believe I can/t haven't answered all your questio - TigerMatt MU - 10/28 10:49:53
     People don't have natural rights (nm) - TigerJackSwartz MU - 10/28 10:47:21
          This is frankly untrue - ummmm MU - 10/28 10:50:31
               Prove it (nm) - TigerJackSwartz MU - 10/28 10:54:01
                    They only exist if God exists despite the illogical - Butcher of Bakersfield STL - 10/28 11:23:20
                         One big heaping logical fallacy, MU98 (nm) - pickle MU - 10/28 11:25:28
                    Also, in case you didn't see it: - ummmm MU - 10/28 10:57:36
                    What type of proof would you accept? - ummmm MU - 10/28 10:56:52
                         Submit your proof, and I'll evaluate it (nm) - TigerJackSwartz MU - 10/28 10:57:24
                              Natural rights are logically deduced. - ummmm MU - 10/28 10:58:16
                                   That's not proof. Prove it (nm) - TigerJackSwartz MU - 10/28 10:59:13
                                        Which right do you feel doesn't exist - your right to - 90Tiger MU - 10/28 11:03:01
                                             I have been provided no proof that any natural rights exist - TigerJackSwartz MU - 10/28 11:04:17
                                                  You are asserting a proof of existence is required fo - 90Tiger MU - 10/28 11:12:53
                                                       LMAO. They exist, because someone made them up? - TigerJackSwartz MU - 10/28 11:16:48
                                                            No, humans observed and acknowledged them (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 10/28 11:50:05
                                                                 So natural rights are human constructs? (nm) - TigerJackSwartz MU - 10/28 11:51:27
                                                                      Are you reading what I type or just inserting your own words - 90Tiger MU - 10/28 12:26:46
                                                                      No, they are discovered in the same way that many - ummmm MU - 10/28 11:58:10
                                                            Though that is not what he said, a lot of things exist - ummmm MU - 10/28 11:22:38
                                                                 Then what did he say? What proof did he provide - TigerJackSwartz MU - 10/28 11:26:42
                                                                      He said that natural rights are logically deduced (nm) - ummmm MU - 10/28 11:27:15
                                                                           Who determines what is logical? (nm) - TigerJackSwartz MU - 10/28 11:33:07
                                                                                RE: Who determines what is logical? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 10/28 12:27:31
                                                                                Logic (nm) - ummmm MU - 10/28 11:42:52
                                        I'm walking you through the logical proof of them. - ummmm MU - 10/28 10:59:48
                                             My life will be taken away from me - TigerJackSwartz MU - 10/28 11:01:24
                                                  Then you own nothing. Theft does not exist (nm) - pickle MU - 10/28 11:19:21
                                                       theft can often be conclusively proven with evidence - TigerJackSwartz MU - 10/28 11:21:27
                                                            How can theft exist if there are no property rights? - pickle MU - 10/28 11:22:57
                                                                 I will, gladly - TigerJackSwartz MU - 10/28 11:25:55
                                                                      That's a laydown - pickle MU - 10/28 11:32:50
                                                                           you say natural rights exist. Prove it (nm) - TigerJackSwartz MU - 10/28 11:35:27
                                                                                You're dodging (nm) - pickle MU - 10/28 11:50:53
                                                                                     No, you're dodging (nm) - TigerJackSwartz MU - 10/28 11:54:50
                                                                      You won't allow that to occur because you reject - ummmm MU - 10/28 11:30:59
                                                                           You can't prove the basic premise (nm) - TigerJackSwartz MU - 10/28 11:35:49
                                                                                Premises aren't proven. - ummmm MU - 10/28 11:43:21
                                                  Okay, so then you disagree with the basic premise - ummmm MU - 10/28 11:03:54
                                                       Prove the basic premise - TigerJackSwartz MU - 10/28 11:05:52
                                                            I can't. It necessitates that you believe - ummmm MU - 10/28 11:17:30
                                                                 So, if I reject your unproven belief, it somehow is evil? - TigerJackSwartz MU - 10/28 11:24:29
                                                                      Yes, rejecting that each individual has a right to his life - ummmm MU - 10/28 11:28:05
                                                                      The irony in all of this - pickle MU - 10/28 11:27:41
                                                                           It is also ironic that you can't provide proof of natural - TigerJackSwartz MU - 10/28 11:35:05
                                                  that's called an infringement on your right - the right is - 90Tiger MU - 10/28 11:03:38
                                                       what right is inherent? How is it inherent? What makes it - TigerJackSwartz MU - 10/28 11:05:14




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