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Posted on: October 28, 2016 at 00:30:41 CT
MizzouTigerz MU
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the execution."

eh?

"eh?" what? There is zero wrong about what I said.

Here is what is wrong with what you are suggesting. It is not just the Jews who demanded Christ's death on the cross, that brought about His death. How utterly naive of you.

Therefore My Father loves Me, because I lay down My life that I may take it again. No one takes it from Me, but I lay it down of Myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This command I have received from My Father.

"By this we know love, because He laid down His life for us."

It was my sin, and your sin, just as much as the Jews, that necessitated God the Father giving Christ the command to lay down His life. The anti-Jew rhetoric that it was all the Jews is Satan's false narrative.
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Christ-like... - tjwheeler UI - 10/27 22:41:40
     Didn't the govt kill Jesus?(nm) - pfann4mizzou MU - 10/27 22:49:17
          Actually it was a Jewish council that - Toger STL - 10/27 23:09:18
               So, yes, it was the roman soldiers, the government, that - MizzouTigerz MU - 10/27 23:17:50
                    eh? - tjwheeler UI - 10/27 23:24:03
                         Why are you so careless in your reading? - MizzouTigerz MU - 10/28 00:02:38
                              Not careless at all. Do you not understand the Jewish - tjwheeler UI - 10/28 00:05:43
                                   Did you even bother to read the text? - MizzouTigerz MU - 10/28 00:12:08
                                        Of course I have read it. You're not hearing me. - tjwheeler UI - 10/28 00:16:49
                                             it was the roman soldiers, the government, that carried out - MizzouTigerz MU - 10/28 00:30:41
                                                  Face Palm - tjwheeler UI - 10/28 00:36:36
                                                       You: Jewish council and mob forced PP's hand. - MizzouTigerz MU - 10/28 00:42:09
                                                            Now I'm calling God a liar? LOL - tjwheeler UI - 10/28 00:45:03
                                                                 You are completely right. They even chose a murderer - TigerMatt MU - 10/28 02:50:36
                                                                      No, he is not completely right. - MizzouTigerz MU - 10/28 08:21:37
                                                                           Then you didn't read a single one of my posts here(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 10/28 08:48:54
                                                                 Why do you continue to lie? - MizzouTigerz MU - 10/28 01:09:15
                                                                      You have to be screwing with me at this point. - tjwheeler UI - 10/28 01:17:56
                                                                           You were too busy being consumed with the wiki version, and - MizzouTigerz MU - 10/28 08:32:40
                                                                                When did this become Sunday School?(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 10/28 08:48:10
                                             He was a threat to the Pharisees and the Saducees - Uncle Fester USMC - 10/28 00:20:34
                                                  This is easy to see. I don't get why he's arguing with me.(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 10/28 00:24:00
                                                       Well, I dont agree with the Jesus was a socialist part - Uncle Fester USMC - 10/28 00:26:28
                                                            Social inequality as a result of talent vs social inequality - tjwheeler UI - 10/28 00:33:10
                                                                 He would feed them yes, Clothe them yes and give them drink - Uncle Fester USMC - 10/28 00:40:18
                                                                      And no one is saying he would(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 10/28 00:45:25
                                                                      Jesus wasnt exactly a pro government guy either considering - TigerMatt MU - 10/28 00:43:00
                                                                           Ever think that "Pro-Govt" today doesn't quite translate - tjwheeler UI - 10/28 00:48:06
                    Demanded by the jews. - Toger STL - 10/27 23:21:33
     Jesus wasn't the government - Butcher of Bakersfield STL - 10/27 22:43:12
          as an atheist i have to agree, jesus wasn't a big government - Leader_of_the_bandwagon MU - 10/27 23:41:19
          LOL. And, what about the whole "give unto Caesar" part? - tjwheeler UI - 10/27 22:58:28
               You just proved you're really ignorant & have no - STL1DFW STL - 10/28 00:22:17
                    Says the poster who can do nothing but insult. - tjwheeler UI - 10/28 00:26:49
                         Yeah, I'm the one explaining Supreme Court cases on here, - STL1DFW STL - 10/28 01:07:44
                              Way to prove my point by adding more insults. (nm) - tjwheeler UI - 10/28 01:08:57
                                   Don't be an idiot! & No insults! After all, as you surmise, - STL1DFW STL - 10/28 01:15:28
                                        Okay. Thanks(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 10/28 01:18:20
                                             Yeah, definitely. Thing is I'm always getting attacked - STL1DFW STL - 10/28 01:25:24
                                                  RE: Yeah, definitely. Thing is I'm always getting attacked - tjwheeler UI - 10/28 01:32:32
               lol, boy you're dumb (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 10/27 23:40:17
                    We're once again in agreement. He has no understanding of - STL1DFW STL - 10/28 00:23:37
                    Can you do anything other than insult? (nm) - tjwheeler UI - 10/27 23:43:37
               LOL you are freaking dumb - Butcher of Bakersfield STL - 10/27 23:12:31
                    Such a Christ-like response. - tjwheeler UI - 10/27 23:17:24
                         you just doubled down on dumb (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 10/27 23:40:50
               He was asked if it were lawful for Jews to pay Roman taxes. - TigerMatt MU - 10/27 23:07:42
                    And his answer was yes. - tjwheeler UI - 10/27 23:12:10
                         Socialists force you to give over what they deem is a fair - TigerMatt MU - 10/27 23:41:02
                              I think you and I are talking about two different things(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 10/27 23:44:43
                                   The message Jesus preached is one of charity. No - TigerMatt MU - 10/27 23:54:32
                                        Of course. - tjwheeler UI - 10/27 23:59:47
                                             Wow you are so ignorant. Typical that you run your mouth and - TigerFan92 MU - 10/28 04:44:51
                                                  speaking of running your mouth(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 10/28 07:03:55
                                             Where did Jesus ever say wealth should he forceably taken - TigerMatt MU - 10/28 00:06:41
                                                  I never said he did. - tjwheeler UI - 10/28 00:12:00
                                                       You are talking in circles. 1) Jesus encouraged chairity, - TigerMatt MU - 10/28 00:19:24
                                                            No, I'm really not. Where have I said Christ ordered - tjwheeler UI - 10/28 00:23:18
                                                                 He was the poorest of the poor! There is a reason why the - STL1DFW STL - 10/28 01:12:12
                                                                 Yes you did. Jesus didn't give a shizz about taxation. - TigerMatt MU - 10/28 00:34:34
                                                                      Christ's priority was the poor & not Paris Hilton's wealth. - tjwheeler UI - 10/28 00:42:49
                                                                           Do you understand the basic tenet of Christianity is Jesus - TigerMatt MU - 10/28 00:49:17
                                                                                Again... - tjwheeler UI - 10/28 00:52:18
                                                                                     You declare no mas and then circle back saying your meme - TigerMatt MU - 10/28 00:59:39
                                                                                          Not sure I ever declared no mas. - tjwheeler UI - 10/28 01:08:02
                                                                                     In need being the salient point TJ - Uncle Fester USMC - 10/28 00:59:15
                                                                                          And, do you think you know exactly who is in need and who - tjwheeler UI - 10/28 01:02:21
                                                                                               God damn man. No one is saying that. That is theology - TigerMatt MU - 10/28 01:06:09
                                                                                                    Why not just be Christlike and help the poor? - tjwheeler UI - 10/28 01:14:38
                         He did not say yes. He said give to Ceasar what is Ceasar's - MizzouTigerz MU - 10/27 23:38:51
                              "what belongs to others" - tjwheeler UI - 10/27 23:50:14
                              Well, Paul had something to say about that actually - Uncle Fester USMC - 10/27 23:48:45
                              Exactly where did I say Christ demanded govt - tjwheeler UI - 10/27 23:43:13
                                   What do you think socialism is?(nm) - TigerMatt MU - 10/27 23:43:48
                                        Conflating forcing redistribution of wealth and - tjwheeler UI - 10/27 23:47:19
                                             As i posted below, Paul warned the Church in Corinth about - Uncle Fester USMC - 10/28 00:31:49
                                                  It's really not(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 10/28 00:49:24
                                                  Right but Paul didnt say you can sit on your ass and expect - TigerMatt MU - 10/28 00:37:17
                                                       Where did I say people should be able to sit on their ass - tjwheeler UI - 10/28 00:55:35
                                                            Dude you are dumb. I am pointing out Christian theology - TigerMatt MU - 10/28 01:02:50
                                                                 Christian theology isn't helping the poor. - tjwheeler UI - 10/28 01:06:07
                                                                      I am not saying that. You are putting words into my mouth. - TigerMatt MU - 10/28 01:11:50
                                                                           I am saying you seem to be too focused on deciding if a - tjwheeler UI - 10/28 01:20:39
                                                                                You are dense and have issues understanding language. - TigerMatt MU - 10/28 01:43:04
                                                                                     This is fascinating. - tjwheeler UI - 10/28 02:00:24
                                                       I agree, Do something so yer able to help someone else - Uncle Fester USMC - 10/28 00:43:19
                         you are clueless and have no idea of what you are talking - Butcher of Bakersfield STL - 10/27 23:17:51
                              Is this the part where you blame the poor for being poor? - tjwheeler UI - 10/27 23:18:35
                                   No, but if they are unwilling to work, they should not eat.(nm) - TigerMatt MU - 10/27 23:42:19
                                        So people are poor because they're unwilling to work? - tjwheeler UI - 10/27 23:48:34
                                             No. But if they are unwilling to work, they should not eat. - TigerMatt MU - 10/27 23:56:40
                                                  What?? Where did he say that? - tjwheeler UI - 10/28 00:02:12
                                                       Do you not understand the difference between the needy and - TigerMatt MU - 10/28 00:14:42
                                                            Who is "we" in that last sentence? - tjwheeler UI - 10/28 00:20:15
                                                                 He didn't solve world hunger either!(nm) - STL1DFW STL - 10/28 01:17:58
                                                                 Again the needy is NOT the same as the lazy. 'We' is - TigerMatt MU - 10/28 00:31:39
                                                                      So "we" isn't Christ. Got it(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 10/28 00:48:30
                                                                           Do you not know what an Apostle is?(nm) - TigerMatt MU - 10/28 00:50:38
                                                                                Do you not know that they were just as responsible - tjwheeler UI - 10/28 00:53:17
                                                                                     Jesus' own words about the Apostles - TigerMatt MU - 10/28 00:58:22
                                                                                          So were the apostles sinners or not?(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 10/28 00:59:16
                                                                                               Everyone is, except Jesus according to Christian theology. - TigerMatt MU - 10/28 01:08:05
                                                                                                    And that doesn't mean religion aligns with Christ. - tjwheeler UI - 10/28 01:22:03
                                                                                                         Wow you are creating your own Christianity. Good luck with - TigerFan92 MU - 10/28 04:49:35
                                                                                                              Creating own Christianity by saying religion doesn't - tjwheeler UI - 10/28 07:03:24
                                   no, it's the part where he explains to you that you don't bl - 90Tiger MU - 10/27 23:42:07
                                        So who do you blame then? Feel free to answer - tjwheeler UI - 10/27 23:48:08
                                             The government mainly - Uncle Fester USMC - 10/28 01:03:02
                                                  Wealth is created on the backs of the poor. - tjwheeler UI - 10/28 01:23:52




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