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If stop and frisk is totally random then it would be

Posted on: September 22, 2016 at 10:22:32 CT
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unconstitutional. If it is based upon a probable cause then it would be constitutional.

The key to this issue is the definition of unreasonable searches and probable cause.

If I am acting strangely walking down the street is that probable cause? In today's legal environment probably not. But anyone who is a parent or has worked with children knows that realistically it is. If we change the accepted legal definition of probable cause then stop and frisk could be perfectly constitutional.
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Typical neocons: Im for conceal carry and 2nd amendment - hefeweizen MU - 9/22 10:12:49
     How do you address the black crime problem? nm. - MUTGR MU - 9/22 10:23:38
          Lock them up when they commit crime. Problem solved(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 9/22 10:24:57
               That doesn't solve anything. - pickle MU - 9/22 10:41:50
                    It did a great job of lowering crime rates for 20 years, but - MUTGR MU - 9/22 10:55:23
                         Incarceration doesn't solve or reduce crime - pickle MU - 9/22 11:04:34
                              It absolutely did and the crime rates prove it. nm. - MUTGR MU - 9/22 14:27:56
                    Let me guess. Government is illegitimate and laws are - DHighlander KC - 9/22 10:54:31
                         No, you aren't close at all - pickle MU - 9/22 11:03:32
                              No my entire post is spot on. It is your inability to think - DHighlander KC - 9/22 12:05:31
                                   No, your post is incorrect - pickle MU - 9/22 12:59:35
     If stop and frisk is totally random then it would be - DHighlander KC - 9/22 10:22:32
          and courts are supposed to be there to protect from - SuperTone MU - 9/22 10:23:43
               it all hinges on the definition of probable cause, no?(nm) - DHighlander KC - 9/22 10:24:43
     How are they mutually exclusive? - Spanky KU - 9/22 10:15:04
          Lol. (nm) - pickle MU - 9/22 10:22:45
          It is unconstitutional, period. The cops have no - hefeweizen MU - 9/22 10:20:19
               That does not answer my question - Spanky KU - 9/22 10:29:22
                    You should vote for the hag. She more closely aligns with - hefeweizen MU - 9/22 10:30:36
                         Not really. - Spanky KU - 9/22 10:33:50
                              you are delusional(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 9/22 10:35:43
                                   No... I am informed on the topic. - Spanky KU - 9/22 10:36:50
                                        ^^^trusts government as long as they have an R beside their - hefeweizen MU - 9/22 10:38:08
                                             Please explain why my position matches Hillary's more than - Spanky KU - 9/22 10:39:13
                                                  She is for strict gun laws, so are you.(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 9/22 10:39:40
                                                       Am I? What 'strict gun law' am I in favor of? - Spanky KU - 9/22 10:40:27
                                                            You are against constitutional carry. - hefeweizen MU - 9/22 10:42:19
                                                                 Am I? - Spanky KU - 9/22 11:01:23
                                                                      you really are dumb. Constitutional carry is without permits - hefeweizen MU - 9/22 11:03:17
                                                                           You really don't understand English. - Spanky KU - 9/22 11:16:16
               Were they random searches?(nm) - DHighlander KC - 9/22 10:23:21
                    Nope.. Based on reasonable suspiscion - Spanky KU - 9/22 10:30:34
                         lol(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 9/22 10:30:58
                              Do you know ANYTHING about stop and frisk? - Spanky KU - 9/22 10:35:20
                                   do you know anything about cops and how they can and will - hefeweizen MU - 9/22 10:37:15
                                        Are you ever going to answer a question? - Spanky KU - 9/22 10:39:55
          So you want constitutional conceal carry abolished in - hefeweizen MU - 9/22 10:16:06
               this seems to be wandering into states rights territory - SuperTone MU - 9/22 10:19:07
                    States don't have rights; individuals do - pickle MU - 9/22 10:24:26
                         could you take you tired schtick elsewhere? The adults are - DHighlander KC - 9/22 10:25:41
                              This is no schtick; it's truth - pickle MU - 9/22 10:43:43
                              He's right. Your rights, body and property belong to you(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 9/22 10:26:19
                                   When I am in a private setting, absolutely. When I am in - DHighlander KC - 9/22 10:33:02
                                        In any and every setting, DH. - pickle MU - 9/22 10:45:09
                                        All cops have to do is say you are acting suspicious. The - hefeweizen MU - 9/22 10:41:16
                                             That is not true. - Spanky KU - 9/22 10:42:30
                                                  It's 100% true (nm) - pickle MU - 9/22 10:45:43
                                                  It is absolutely true. You just keep on trusting government - hefeweizen MU - 9/22 10:43:27
                                                       It is not true. - Spanky KU - 9/22 11:02:24
                                                            It is 100% true so you just keep on trusting that big - hefeweizen MU - 9/22 11:04:04
                                   See.. that's your problem. - Spanky KU - 9/22 10:32:30
                                        See, that's your problem. You think the state has power over - hefeweizen MU - 9/22 10:39:10
                    He doesn't understand that... NYC has CCC and stop - Spanky KU - 9/22 10:20:45
               Can you answer my question? - Spanky KU - 9/22 10:18:28
               Answered below - Spanky KU - 9/22 10:17:31
                    So you are for gun control. How very liberal of you(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 9/22 10:18:29
                         Yes. - Spanky KU - 9/22 10:19:36
                              non sequitor. You should vote for the hag. She is more - hefeweizen MU - 9/22 10:21:32
                                   Your ignorance is astounding! - Spanky KU - 9/22 10:36:16
                                        your liberlaism is saddening(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 9/22 10:44:03
                                             Your inability to construct a logical argument is even more - Spanky KU - 9/22 11:18:19
     nobody wants stop and frisk. stfu already.(nm) - SuperTone MU - 9/22 10:13:52
          Spanky does. Tigrrr! does. I'm sure DHighlander and - 90Tiger MU - 9/22 11:44:14
          Yes they do (nm) - pickle MU - 9/22 10:24:49
          You already have DWI checkpoints which are not at - Rabbit Test MU - 9/22 10:16:40
               DWI checkpoints are much more intrusive on our - DHighlander KC - 9/22 10:28:03
                    Concerning behavior is subjective and subject to the - Rabbit Test MU - 9/22 11:30:33
                    They're the exact same thing (nm) - pickle MU - 9/22 10:50:02
               they shouldn't have those either.(nm) - SuperTone MU - 9/22 10:17:06
                    But we do. They is you. - Rabbit Test MU - 9/22 10:20:03
                         I have never seen a DWI checkpoint..... - SuperTone MU - 9/22 10:20:46
                              I have been through at least 20. - Rabbit Test MU - 9/22 11:32:34
          Spanky does and the clown said it should be considered in - hefeweizen MU - 9/22 10:14:30
               of course it should. anything shown to have worked before - SuperTone MU - 9/22 10:16:51
                    oh good lord. You are using rask logic today(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 9/22 10:17:34
                         how? I'm not for forcing anything on anyone...(nm) - SuperTone MU - 9/22 10:19:58
                              Stop and frisk at random is force without cause(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 9/22 10:22:16
                                   i'm not for it.(nm) - SuperTone MU - 9/22 10:22:54




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