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That is an illogical reply to my post.

Posted on: September 8, 2016 at 12:58:12 CT

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Is someone who is drunk and passed out "self directing"? How about someone in a coma? What about someone who is severely retarded?

Do you or anyone else have a right to unilaterally decide to kill them based upon your determination that they are not "self directing"?

The bottom line is that unborn children are innocent human beings. That is a scientific fact.

Abortion is by definition the deliberate killing of an innocent unborn human being.

Every "successful" abortion is the deliberate killing of at least one innocent human being. That is also just a scientific fact.

Deliberately killing innocent human beings is immoral.

Or do you disagree with the statement immediately above this one?

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Libertarianism principles are not a political platform - pickle MU

- 9/8 10:23:22

Anarchism is NOT logical and your own views are self- - JeffB MU

- 9/8 11:05:17

You're an idiot - pickle MU

- 9/8 13:14:55

You do run and hide rather than explaining your views - JeffB MU

- 9/9 00:19:32

unborn things aren't self-directing (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 9/8 12:27:49

That is an illogical reply to my post. - JeffB MU

- 9/8 12:58:12

How do you define self-directing?(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 9/8 12:29:41

"no government" is not a libertarian position. - mizzou alum 93 MU - 9/8 11:07:35

He gets an idea in his head and won't let go no matter - JeffB MU

- 9/8 11:10:05

He appears only to be capable of high level, very broad - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 9/8 11:19:13

Very true. He apparently can't think through the real - JeffB MU

- 9/8 11:26:05

he doesn't even understand the broad concepts of - mizzou alum 93 MU - 9/8 11:25:00

He is like children who latch onto a new idea that makes - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 9/8 11:28:41

yep. i have said in the past he is like a 14 year old kid - mizzou alum 93 MU - 9/8 11:30:39

You should champion this couple - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 9/8 11:03:17

Two consenting adults in a voluntary relationship - pickle MU

- 9/8 11:31:52

And, you should champion them as your posterchildren - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 9/8 11:39:14

your constant error: conflating championing rights v. champi - 90Tiger MU - 9/8 12:28:51

If you champion certain rights you cannot separate - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 9/8 12:32:10

That's an unintelligent statement (nm) - pickle MU

- 9/8 12:55:22

Then it makes sense you picked up on it.(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 9/8 13:00:26

We can certainly champion their rights - pickle MU

- 9/8 11:43:24

I do believe there are societal impacts and costs - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 9/8 11:45:47

What is "society" and how exactly can it be "impacted"? - LimerNick MU - 9/8 11:57:34

Society is a group of people who agree to live together - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 9/8 12:00:26

i don't share your moral code, 4tigs, and we're doing just - 90Tiger MU - 9/8 12:29:48

100% of a society will never share it - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 9/8 12:37:10

You didn't address my post at all (nm) - pickle MU

- 9/8 11:51:00

I did - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 9/8 11:52:52

You didn't (nm) - pickle MU

- 9/8 12:03:31

your question was a straw man. - mizzou alum 93 MU - 9/8 11:52:24

like people voluntarily working for the State? - mizzou alum 93 MU - 9/8 11:44:43

She loves her children, eh? (nm) - JeffB MU

- 9/8 11:08:38

heck, libertarians couldn't even get over 5000 people - mizzou alum 93 MU - 9/8 11:04:36

Libertopia - documentary (a link from the Wiki article) - JeffB MU

- 9/8 11:23:13

the last sentence is wrong. and you obviously don't - mizzou alum 93 MU - 9/8 10:56:43

But couldnt a state be based on consent if every 4,8 - TigerMatt MU

- 9/8 10:56:28

Not really - pickle MU

- 9/8 11:32:43

what? it seems like our current State or government. (nm) - mizzou alum 93 MU - 9/8 11:45:51

it is impossible to govern another without that other's - mizzou alum 93 MU - 9/8 10:57:47