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I do believe there are societal impacts and costs

Posted on: September 8, 2016 at 11:45:47 CT

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to allowing abhorrent behavior to go unchecked in a society. That is why thriving societies have always had a moral fabric of some sort, and most if not all of the great civilization downfalls have occurred as a result of the dismantling of that moral code.

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Libertarianism principles are not a political platform - pickle MU

- 9/8 10:23:22

Anarchism is NOT logical and your own views are self- - JeffB MU

- 9/8 11:05:17

You're an idiot - pickle MU

- 9/8 13:14:55

You do run and hide rather than explaining your views - JeffB MU

- 9/9 00:19:32

unborn things aren't self-directing (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 9/8 12:27:49

That is an illogical reply to my post. - JeffB MU

- 9/8 12:58:12

How do you define self-directing?(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 9/8 12:29:41

"no government" is not a libertarian position. - mizzou alum 93 MU - 9/8 11:07:35

He gets an idea in his head and won't let go no matter - JeffB MU

- 9/8 11:10:05

He appears only to be capable of high level, very broad - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 9/8 11:19:13

Very true. He apparently can't think through the real - JeffB MU

- 9/8 11:26:05

he doesn't even understand the broad concepts of - mizzou alum 93 MU - 9/8 11:25:00

He is like children who latch onto a new idea that makes - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 9/8 11:28:41

yep. i have said in the past he is like a 14 year old kid - mizzou alum 93 MU - 9/8 11:30:39

You should champion this couple - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 9/8 11:03:17

Two consenting adults in a voluntary relationship - pickle MU

- 9/8 11:31:52

And, you should champion them as your posterchildren - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 9/8 11:39:14

your constant error: conflating championing rights v. champi - 90Tiger MU - 9/8 12:28:51

If you champion certain rights you cannot separate - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 9/8 12:32:10

That's an unintelligent statement (nm) - pickle MU

- 9/8 12:55:22

Then it makes sense you picked up on it.(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 9/8 13:00:26

We can certainly champion their rights - pickle MU

- 9/8 11:43:24

I do believe there are societal impacts and costs - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 9/8 11:45:47

What is "society" and how exactly can it be "impacted"? - LimerNick MU - 9/8 11:57:34

Society is a group of people who agree to live together - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 9/8 12:00:26

i don't share your moral code, 4tigs, and we're doing just - 90Tiger MU - 9/8 12:29:48

100% of a society will never share it - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 9/8 12:37:10

You didn't address my post at all (nm) - pickle MU

- 9/8 11:51:00

I did - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 9/8 11:52:52

You didn't (nm) - pickle MU

- 9/8 12:03:31

your question was a straw man. - mizzou alum 93 MU - 9/8 11:52:24

like people voluntarily working for the State? - mizzou alum 93 MU - 9/8 11:44:43

She loves her children, eh? (nm) - JeffB MU

- 9/8 11:08:38

heck, libertarians couldn't even get over 5000 people - mizzou alum 93 MU - 9/8 11:04:36

Libertopia - documentary (a link from the Wiki article) - JeffB MU

- 9/8 11:23:13

the last sentence is wrong. and you obviously don't - mizzou alum 93 MU - 9/8 10:56:43

But couldnt a state be based on consent if every 4,8 - TigerMatt MU

- 9/8 10:56:28

Not really - pickle MU

- 9/8 11:32:43

what? it seems like our current State or government. (nm) - mizzou alum 93 MU - 9/8 11:45:51

it is impossible to govern another without that other's - mizzou alum 93 MU - 9/8 10:57:47