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Posted on: September 7, 2016 at 13:18:31 CT

tmcats KSU

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the blood of our fathers who died to give us this freedom. it deserves the utmost respect. more so that the damn uniform. to sit on one's azz is to spit on our fathers' graves. the behavior is unacceptable in the american culture.

Edited by tmcats at 13:19:09 on 09/07/16

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An NFL player answers Kaepernick's stunt - Spanky KU - 9/7 13:04:10

Tempest Teapot. Neither the NFL or the "anthem" merit - raskolnikov MU - 9/7 13:43:35

Of course a commie like you thinks that.... - Spanky KU - 9/7 13:57:10

He stands because of indoctrination. Noble (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 9/7 13:35:38

Did you even read his essay? He explains rather - Mizzou Lou KC - 9/7 14:27:12

did you? From his essay: - 90Tiger MU - 9/7 15:29:19

good for him(nm) - meatiger MU - 9/7 15:06:07

Respect - Spanky KU - 9/7 13:39:31

respect is noble, yes(nm) - tmcats KSU - 9/7 13:37:26

Respect is noble only if that which you respect acts - 90Tiger MU - 9/7 15:30:16

the nfl league just sucks so bad on this question ... - tmcats KSU - 9/7 13:09:42

So they shoudl force all of their players to stand?(nm) - meatiger MU - 9/7 13:13:00

The NBA forces their players to stand. Also why is kneeling - bcoop199 KC - 9/7 13:44:31

Guess we will see what happens next year - meatiger MU - 9/7 13:50:31

Kaepernick is now kneeling instead of sitting because - bcoop199 KC - 9/7 14:01:21

Easier to get some good face time while kneeling as - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 9/7 15:16:21

good for him - meatiger MU - 9/7 14:02:12

You think kneeling is better than sitting?..nm - bcoop199 KC - 9/7 14:04:25

I have no idea - meatiger MU - 9/7 14:10:17

Then why did you say good for him?.nm - bcoop199 KC - 9/7 14:12:58

more of a sarcasm - meatiger MU - 9/7 14:17:08

Agreed.,nm - bcoop199 KC - 9/7 14:21:40

But at the same point - meatiger MU - 9/7 14:22:29

My guess is that SF thinks it's disruptive but I could be - bcoop199 KC - 9/7 14:24:28

from a public relations ...yes - meatiger MU - 9/7 14:33:16

Yes... - Spanky KU - 9/7 13:18:41

How American of you(nm) - meatiger MU - 9/7 13:20:30

the NFL is as much anti free speech as one ogranization - SuperTone MU

- 9/7 14:12:26

So because the NFL - meatiger MU - 9/7 14:19:10

Welcome to the NFL... How are these "offenses" worth a fine? - Spanky KU - 9/7 13:26:16

Because they have a uniform policy - meatiger MU - 9/7 13:30:24

Both are free speech issues - Spanky KU - 9/7 13:33:57

Irony at its best - meatiger MU - 9/7 13:49:23

No... I am saying they should be CONSISTENT! - Spanky KU - 9/7 13:52:51

so..whenever someone is upset - meatiger MU - 9/7 13:57:25

Consistency.... - Spanky KU - 9/7 13:59:34

marketing. they want a consistent product/image. (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 9/7 15:31:20

Such as everyone standing during the National Anthem. - Spanky KU - 9/7 15:49:17

the NFL only dicates - meatiger MU - 9/7 13:40:44

they also dictate how players can act on the field.(nm) - SuperTone MU

- 9/7 14:13:00

to an extent...yes(nm) - meatiger MU - 9/7 14:19:41

The NFL fined Jim McMahon for wearing a headband under his - Spanky KU - 9/7 13:41:43

was he wearing his helmst on the sideline? - meatiger MU - 9/7 13:42:43

Rozelle - Spanky KU - 9/7 13:53:29

that was like after he had been fined many times - meatiger MU - 9/7 13:58:09

Neither are free speech issues. (nm) - ummmm MU - 9/7 13:38:00

What are they? - Spanky KU - 9/7 13:39:52

Company policies (nm) - ummmm MU - 9/7 13:41:45

Policies that...... keep going...... - Spanky KU - 9/7 13:54:13

enact company policy (nm) - ummmm MU - 9/7 13:56:53

to do what purpose? keep going.... - Spanky KU - 9/7 13:58:30

to do what the company desires. (nm) - ummmm MU - 9/7 14:02:18

You are just being ignorant... as usual - Spanky KU - 9/7 14:04:48

Why not just say what you are getting at. (nm) - ummmm MU - 9/7 14:30:22

I have.. several times - Spanky KU - 9/7 14:44:09

No, you haven't. You employed this weird leading - ummmm MU - 9/7 15:15:07

Sure I have... - Spanky KU - 9/7 15:26:28

RE: Why not just say what you are getting at. (nm) - meatiger MU - 9/7 14:33:44

You and Spanky need to follow this subthread - ummmm MU - 9/7 15:16:29

RE: You and Spanky need to follow this subthread - meatiger MU - 9/7 15:33:12

I jumped on the free speech thing. His follow up questions - ummmm MU - 9/7 15:36:30

No-one can follow your tangental 'thoughts' - Spanky KU - 9/7 15:22:03

So was I supposed to know that your post about - ummmm MU - 9/7 15:37:26

Kaepernick's actions are being defended as "free speech" - Spanky KU - 9/7 15:48:21

I said "Neither are free speech" issues. - ummmm MU - 9/7 17:52:21

He has no "actions" - meatiger MU - 9/7 16:00:15

That is an action.... unless he was wheeled out or crawled - Spanky KU - 9/7 16:02:40

Thank you. - Spanky KU - 9/7 15:01:24

Follow.the.thread. - ummmm MU - 9/7 15:15:52

Because...... - Spanky KU - 9/7 15:25:39

Does your company have a national anthem policy?(nm) - meatiger MU - 9/7 14:01:36

NO.. nor does it fine me for showing up to work with brown - Spanky KU - 9/7 14:03:29

you have a dress code..correct?(nm) - meatiger MU - 9/7 14:05:14

There is not a written dress code policy at my company. - Spanky KU - 9/7 14:07:55

The last two that I have been at - meatiger MU - 9/7 14:09:43

If I wished to appear like a street urchin and not a - Spanky KU - 9/7 14:45:50

They are private rules - meatiger MU - 9/7 13:41:12

and....... - Spanky KU - 9/7 13:55:23

A number of reasons - meatiger MU - 9/7 14:01:04

The color of shoes is marketing dollars? - Spanky KU - 9/7 14:06:17

Well...someone could put a logo - meatiger MU - 9/7 14:08:32

But they didn't... and got fined nonetheless - Spanky KU - 9/7 14:09:19

actually they did - meatiger MU - 9/7 14:11:28

Player was fined because Green shoes were not - Spanky KU - 9/7 14:50:40

that is nice(nm) - meatiger MU - 9/7 15:05:29

So.. not because of logos, branding or loss of NFL revenue - Spanky KU - 9/7 15:12:30

Actuallly...I think most fans dont give - meatiger MU - 9/7 15:30:11

Wrong...Poll: Majority Don’t Respect Kaepernick Decision - Spanky KU - 9/7 16:00:45

That does not mean the "care" - meatiger MU - 9/7 16:02:40

OK.... Believe that if you must. - Spanky KU - 9/7 16:12:46

Why should they enforce uniformity at that time? - meatiger MU - 9/7 14:00:19

No, both are NFL marketing issues. (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 9/7 13:37:59

There is nothing unAmerican about the employer - ummmm MU - 9/7 13:24:26

make it league policy just like ... - tmcats KSU - 9/7 13:14:05

why?(nm) - meatiger MU - 9/7 13:15:55

Why not? - Spanky KU - 9/7 13:20:15

IDGAF - meatiger MU - 9/7 13:23:34

Apparently you do or you wouldn't be weighing in - Spanky KU - 9/7 13:27:17

because the flag and anthem represent ... - tmcats KSU - 9/7 13:18:31

i've stood at attention or in a manner of respect for the - blake1771 KC - 9/7 13:24:52

I think CP is a total dickwad - meatiger MU - 9/7 13:28:29

there are no rules for you, right?(nm) - tmcats KSU - 9/7 13:29:05

My company has their set of rules - meatiger MU - 9/7 13:30:59

the nfl has no rules on the anthem, only feelings ... - tmcats KSU - 9/7 13:33:42

the nfl has a policy ... - tmcats KSU - 9/7 13:27:10

He is not spitting on our fathers' graves - meatiger MU - 9/7 13:20:18

he's a complete fool ... - tmcats KSU - 9/7 13:25:11

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