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I think it all comes down to our definitions of government.

Posted on: August 30, 2016 at 09:20:52 CT
hefeweizen MU
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In Sicilian/Italian culture generations ago, and in muslim tribal areas today, the mafia/warlords are the government and you pay them protection. Sounds an awful lot like private policing to me. Their so called "laws" arent written down and can and do change at the whim of the one in power. Utopia doesnt exist, never will.
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Why Kaepernick's protest, even though his right, rings - hefeweizen MU - 8/30 08:46:05
     He is also standing up against Hillary's emails (nm) - ummmm MU - 8/30 09:35:42
     If Kaepernick were still starting - FootballRefugee MU - 8/30 09:28:37
     Flag and anthem recognize? - Toger STL - 8/30 09:26:59
          parsing my words, while cute and snarky, is very boring. Try - hefeweizen MU - 8/30 09:28:03
               Bs is Bs whether you include God or not.(nm) - Toger STL - 8/30 09:33:01
                    that's your objection? Is it not written down that we have - hefeweizen MU - 8/30 09:36:42
                         If someone doesn't believe in that crap should they - Toger STL - 8/30 09:53:31
                              folks like me? I dont care what he does. Doesnt affect me - hefeweizen MU - 8/30 09:59:02
                                   No more hollow than any non violent protest. - Toger STL - 8/30 10:05:11
                                        maybe, maybe not. I personally think he is doing it as a - hefeweizen MU - 8/30 10:09:16
                                             So you don't think his thoughts contribute to his actions. - Toger STL - 8/30 10:15:23
                                                  The only thing I protest is your smugness. It gets boring(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 8/30 10:22:18
                                                       So when you're bored you continue to continue. - Toger STL - 8/30 10:29:24
     RE: Why Kaepernick's protest, even though his right, rings - MUTGR MU - 8/30 09:04:59
          Only door to door gun confiscation would lessen gun violence - hefeweizen MU - 8/30 09:13:15
               RE: Only door to door gun confiscation would lessen gun violence - MUTGR MU - 8/30 09:26:52
     RE: Why Kaepernick's protest, even though his right, rings - meatiger MU - 8/30 08:55:54
          The only victims of racism today are whites, in particular - Fourth and Long MU - 8/30 09:02:56
               I feel your pain. - Toger STL - 8/30 10:02:25
               Given just hiring quotas in place for many years - GA Tiger MU - 8/30 09:04:18
          He never gave one example for his views. No doubt - GA Tiger MU - 8/30 09:00:15
               Even if he had - DC Jayhawk KU - 8/30 09:15:39
                    I have no idea. Depends on what I hear. And - GA Tiger MU - 8/30 09:18:40
                         to clarify - DC Jayhawk KU - 8/30 09:29:29
                              black baby daddies don't hang around - tigerfans3 MSSU - 8/30 10:47:30
                                   run those statistics pre-1980. (nm) - DC Jayhawk KU - 8/30 12:30:26
                              To clarify further, I said - GA Tiger MU - 8/30 09:57:09
                         Ah ...yes..blame the "black culture" - meatiger MU - 8/30 09:24:22
                              what culture? - tigerfans3 MSSU - 8/30 10:48:09
                              We should blame WHAT then?(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 8/30 09:57:38
                    Are you OK with rich white men talking - Sal KC - 8/30 09:17:11
                         I am. - DC Jayhawk KU - 8/30 09:20:57
                              So it isnt a black/white issue. Pardon the pun. Bottom line - hefeweizen MU - 8/30 09:23:39
               You don't think he has never been discriminated against? - meatiger MU - 8/30 09:07:25
                    Its possible of course. Seems he - GA Tiger MU - 8/30 09:14:40
                         RE: Its possible of course. Seems he - meatiger MU - 8/30 09:22:25
                              Yes, prejudice exists among cops. Any idea - GA Tiger MU - 8/30 09:59:49
                              Blacks get pulled over more than whites because they tend to - hefeweizen MU - 8/30 09:41:55
                    What racism and bigotry are you referring to specifically? (nm) - hefeweizen MU - 8/30 09:08:20
          "significant racism" - Sal KC - 8/30 08:57:07
               i very much know what significant means - meatiger MU - 8/30 08:59:21
                    racism and bigotry are not interchangable words - tigerinhogtown STL - 8/30 09:28:46
                    What racism and bigotry are you referring to specifically? (nm) - hefeweizen MU - 8/30 09:04:39
                         He doesn't know (nm) - Sal KC - 8/30 09:05:11
                    So that's a "no" - Sal KC - 8/30 09:00:28
                         What percentage of the US population do you personally know? - pickle MU - 8/30 09:02:56
                              that's "irrelevant" according to your own words. (nm) - mizzou alum 93 MU - 8/30 09:09:47
                              What % of the US prison population do you personally know? - Fourth and Long MU - 8/30 09:04:36
                                   Know? as in the biblical sense? - Tigrrrr! MU - 8/30 09:28:21
                                   lol yes! (nm) - Sal KC - 8/30 09:04:47
                                        "lol yes!" what? (nm) - pickle MU - 8/30 09:09:54
                              About 1.9 million (nm) - Sal KC - 8/30 09:04:35
                                   You personally know 1.9 million people? (nm) - pickle MU - 8/30 09:05:32
                                        I'm an extremely social person (nm) - Sal KC - 8/30 09:05:53
                                             Apparently this was a valid question for you to ask me - pickle MU - 8/30 09:09:17
                                                  I never once said you must know every single cop - Sal KC - 8/30 09:10:35
                                                       But you thought it valid when it is entirely irrelevant (nm) - pickle MU - 8/30 09:15:14
                                                            So now you can tell people when their questions - Sal KC - 8/30 09:16:05
                                                                 It has nothing to do with my view of myself - pickle MU - 8/30 09:33:37
                                                                      your false version of "the nature of the State." see, here - mizzou alum 93 MU - 8/30 09:39:21
     If only cops would never enter black areas of cities. - GA Tiger MU - 8/30 08:55:03
          See. to me that is the rub. The mafia existed/exists - hefeweizen MU - 8/30 09:02:30
               Absolutely - Sal KC - 8/30 09:04:17
                    I just did comment on it and I would be being dishonest - hefeweizen MU - 8/30 09:07:16
                    Vast majority of blacks shot by cops are not because - GA Tiger MU - 8/30 09:06:33
                         What about the majority of whites shot by cops? - Sal KC - 8/30 09:07:36
                              Areas in which I agree with pickle and his ilk are in the - hefeweizen MU - 8/30 09:10:49
                                   Gov't, in ALL areas, will ALWAYS go too far. - GA Tiger MU - 8/30 09:16:09
                                        I think it all comes down to our definitions of government. - hefeweizen MU - 8/30 09:20:52
          No, that's a straw man (nm) - pickle MU - 8/30 08:58:55
          "Somebody just shot my boyfriend!" - Sal KC - 8/30 08:56:28
               Another straw man - pickle MU - 8/30 08:59:34
                    But it would happen even in your ideal world - Sal KC - 8/30 09:02:42
                         No, Sal. It was a straw man (nm) - pickle MU - 8/30 09:03:45
                              Another non answer - Sal KC - 8/30 09:05:02
                                   It was another straw man argument from you - pickle MU - 8/30 09:07:58
                                        you don't answer questions. and this is your dodge of - mizzou alum 93 MU - 8/30 09:08:45
                                        Another non answer (nm) - Sal KC - 8/30 09:08:14
                                             There wasn't a question - pickle MU - 8/30 09:14:01
                                                  what about this upsets you? why the childish, emotional - mizzou alum 93 MU - 8/30 09:16:01
                                                       Because somebody dares to disagree with him (nm) - Sal KC - 8/30 09:16:33
                                                            I'm neither upset nor angry - pickle MU - 8/30 09:35:50
                                                                 yes you are. you are very upset and angry. - mizzou alum 93 MU - 8/30 09:39:56
                                                            that's it almost entirely. he cannot stand being challenged - mizzou alum 93 MU - 8/30 09:18:55
                                                  Yes there was but you are just too narrow and closed - Sal KC - 8/30 09:15:26
                                                       There wasn't; there was a straw man - pickle MU - 8/30 09:36:21
                                                       he will never understand. he is willfully ignorant. (nm) - mizzou alum 93 MU - 8/30 09:16:35
                                   it's his dodge of choice. (nm) - mizzou alum 93 MU - 8/30 09:06:34
                    oh, i think you figured it our already. - mizzou alum 93 MU - 8/30 09:02:05
     State oppression, tyranny, and injustice are not lies - pickle MU - 8/30 08:52:01




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