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Two problems with your reply. We weren't discussing
Posted on: April 30, 2025 at 21:34:56 CT
JeffB MU
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whether some human beings are persons or not, but it is duly noted that you apparently side with the Nazis and the pro-slavery advocates that some human beings are not necessarily persons and can be disposed of as others see fit.
The question on the table, which has been definitively answered by science, is whether or not a fetus, a being with a human mother and a human father is in fact a "human being".
You reject the unanimous consensus of the experts in the field, a consensus that has existed for about a century now, and in embarrassing fashion keep repeating your mantra that they are wrong with ZERO evidence to back up your absurd claims.
Conception occurs when the specialized human reproductive cells, gametes, unite the 23 chromosomes from the sperm of the father with the 23 chromosomes from the oocyte (egg) of the mother resulting in the creation of a new, unique human being with the 46 chromosomes of human beings.
THAT is the one and only ontological change which results in a human being. There is no other. From that point on, all that is needed for that new human being to grow through the various life stages of humans... embryo, fetus, newborn, infant, toddler, child, kindergartner, middle schooler, adolescent, young adult, middle aged, older adult, elderly, is nutrition, hydration and a safe environment to grow.
No matter how large or small, smart or barely conscious, that individual is a human being.
That is just a scientific fact.
Those who want to justify killing humans have historically tried to claim that some humans are "not lives worth living" or non-persons.
Sadly, you seem to be a member of that latter group, along with the Nazis, pro-slavers and their ilk.
The question on the table, which has been definitively answered by science, is whether or not a fetus, a being with a human mother and a human father is in fact a "human being".
You reject the unanimous consensus of the experts in the field, a consensus that has existed for about a century now, and in embarrassing fashion keep repeating your mantra that they are wrong with ZERO evidence to back up your absurd claims.
Conception occurs when the specialized human reproductive cells, gametes, unite the 23 chromosomes from the sperm of the father with the 23 chromosomes from the oocyte (egg) of the mother resulting in the creation of a new, unique human being with the 46 chromosomes of human beings.
THAT is the one and only ontological change which results in a human being. There is no other. From that point on, all that is needed for that new human being to grow through the various life stages of humans... embryo, fetus, newborn, infant, toddler, child, kindergartner, middle schooler, adolescent, young adult, middle aged, older adult, elderly, is nutrition, hydration and a safe environment to grow.
No matter how large or small, smart or barely conscious, that individual is a human being.
That is just a scientific fact.
Those who want to justify killing humans have historically tried to claim that some humans are "not lives worth living" or non-persons.
Sadly, you seem to be a member of that latter group, along with the Nazis, pro-slavers and their ilk.
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Two problems with your reply. We weren't discussing - JeffB MU - 4/30 21:34:56