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EVs are getting better & coming down in price. There will

Posted on: November 27, 2024 at 11:36:39 CT
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be a transition and a lot of legacy car companies are going to struggle as it happens.

Chery, a Chinese battery company is starting production of solid state batteries, which charge far faster, are more reliable and have 20% better range than current batteries. Other bigger companies have some with higher energy density than that.

EVs are coming into price parity with ICE engine vehicles and Tesla has something like a 20% profit margin on their vehicles, no debt and has greatly ramped up capacity for production. Every car they sell takes a sale away from legacy automakers. Chinese vehicles are even cheaper in countries like Australia & South America. China is a huge market and legacy automakers' sales there have plummeted.

If self-driving cars come to fruition and prices of robotaxi rides takes off it would likely erode car sales significantly for everyone. Most vehicles sit for 95+% of the time. If it becomes far cheaper to have a vehicle to order at the ready for every trip you take, why buy cars to sit in the garage or parking lot most of the time? Call a pickup to pick up some lumber, call a custom van to take a party out to dinner, or a family vacation, smaller vehicles for a single passenger trip to work or school... with the ability to sleep or work or do homework along the way.
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Nissan has 12-14 months to survive - Th8tnTiger MU - 11/27 09:50:29
     Expect car prices to skyrocket if the tariffs go through - SparkyStalcup MU - 11/27 18:24:13
     wrong board (nm) - pickle MU - 11/27 11:44:53
     EVs are getting better & coming down in price. There will - JeffB MU - 11/27 11:36:39
     RE: Nissan has 12-14 months to survive - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 11/27 10:47:46
     They had shlt engines for quite a while and now Toyota - TigerFan92 STL - 11/27 10:36:50
     Worst customer service I've ever seen - BigDave MU - 11/27 10:25:00
          They weren't always sh*tty quality - Bosalphus KC - 11/27 10:29:21
               Still drive 2012 QX56 - Achmed MU - 11/27 11:42:29
               We had a 94 Merc Villager which had a Nissan engine/drive - Tigrrrr! MU - 11/27 10:38:02
                    Toyota having a tough time right now - mizzouSECedes STL - 11/27 11:21:46
     I need to replace our Toyota, should probably do so soon - playhard KC - 11/27 10:12:39
          Reeeeeeeeeeee - Panthera MU - 11/27 16:46:32
          LOL-bless your heart(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 11/27 10:48:31
          Why would they cost 25% more? (nm) - Bosalphus KC - 11/27 10:15:36
               That's the new $hitlib meme. Trump's tariffs will raise - Th8tnTiger MU - 11/27 10:29:40
                    are we putting in tarrifs for imports from...[checks notes] - CulturedDan MU - 11/27 11:07:24
                         assembled does equal made. imported parts which - noodle MU - 11/27 11:15:43
                              where are the parts made?(nm) - CulturedDan MU - 11/27 11:16:36
                                   mexico, china, canada = 60% (nm) - noodle MU - 11/27 11:20:13
                                        so, this will somehow be different than the current - CulturedDan MU - 11/27 11:25:35
                                             i believe mexico and canada are currently exempt. (nm) - noodle MU - 11/27 11:31:33
                                                  they are not(nm) - CulturedDan MU - 11/27 11:32:37
                                                       2.5% (nm) - noodle MU - 11/27 11:35:53
                    You need to go back and take a Econ 101 class again - playhard KC - 11/27 11:05:09
                         Apparently it is - Panthera MU - 11/27 16:47:54
                         they have 15 manufacturing facilities in the U.S. - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 11/27 11:16:40
                         How would this apply to Toyotas? (nm) - Bosalphus KC - 11/27 11:13:18
     hopefully the failing ones won't be bailed out - Bosalphus KC - 11/27 09:51:03
          I dont mind if the Japanese gov does it but we shouldnt (nm) - TheWildcat MU - 11/27 10:03:59
               I was referring to the Detroit ones - Bosalphus KC - 11/27 10:08:58




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