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2014. Victoria Nelund.
Posted on: October 8, 2024 at 15:13:30 CT
pickle
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when has Trump been to Gaza?
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JayHoaxH8r
MU
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10/8 14:07:58
He's there in spirit with Bibi now (nm)
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Tigerfish
MU
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10/8 14:29:03
perplexing that mega followers support the jewish state ...
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tmcats
KSU
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10/8 14:11:08
RE: perplexing you’re here lying bob
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Panthera
MU
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10/8 16:07:30
perplexing that you support terrorism(nm)
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AWOLTiger
KC
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10/8 14:26:20
self-defense by the jewish state and ukraine is not ...
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tmcats
KSU
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10/8 14:30:13
nation states do not have self-defense
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pickle
MU
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10/8 14:48:05
you already proved your unworthiness saying ....
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tmcats
KSU
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10/8 14:50:08
You’re a coward who is afraid of questions (nm)
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pickle
MU
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10/8 14:56:40
he was a terrorist
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Seagull
MU
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10/8 14:51:56
he saved 250,000 american lives by dropping the bomb ...
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tmcats
KSU
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10/8 14:55:20
No he didn’t. He was a mass murderer and terrorist
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pickle
MU
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10/8 14:57:11
prove it (nm)
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Seagull
MU
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10/8 14:55:45
read history ...
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tmcats
KSU
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10/8 14:58:03
This is a logical fallacy (nm)
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pickle
MU
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10/8 14:59:56
So, because someone said so?
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Seagull
MU
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10/8 14:58:57
one cannot prove something that did not happen ...
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tmcats
KSU
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10/8 15:00:30
So he chose to kill 250,000 civlians instead?
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Seagull
MU
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10/8 15:25:29
False dilemma.
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pickle
MU
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10/8 15:02:53
Apologies, sounded like you were saying Israel is in the wro
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AWOLTiger
KC
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10/8 14:47:55
Israel is in the wrong for occupying Palestinian land
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Seagull
MU
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10/8 14:51:29
the jewish state has every right to self defense(nm)
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tmcats
KSU
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10/8 14:50:50
it doesn’t (nm)
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pickle
MU
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10/8 14:57:29
what makes that "curious", exactly? do you think israel
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90Tiger
STL
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10/8 14:13:38
They’re easy places to launder money(nm)
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glue
MU
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10/8 14:15:49
that's just silly and weak(nm)
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tmcats
KSU
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10/8 14:17:16
both an independent ukraine and israel are a good thing(nm)
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tmcats
KSU
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10/8 14:14:45
How much did AIPAC pay you to say that line? (nm)
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Seagull
MU
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10/8 14:17:14
no payment, just rational thought(nm)
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tmcats
KSU
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10/8 14:17:45
Sure. Mind sharing your donor list? (nm)
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Seagull
MU
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10/8 14:18:23
i left politics sometime ago(nm)
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tmcats
KSU
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10/8 14:23:39
why? (nm)
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Seagull
MU
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10/8 14:24:29
my conservative ethics were not compatible with the job(nm)
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tmcats
KSU
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10/8 14:25:43
what you belive to be conservatism. fixed it for you(nm)
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tman
MU
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10/8 14:34:38
yes, my view that conservatism and ethics go hand in hand ..
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tmcats
KSU
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10/8 14:36:45
you are not conservative. you are rather liberal
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tman
MU
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10/8 14:41:40
there is nothing liberal about my politics from abortion to
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tmcats
KSU
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10/8 14:42:51
Liar(nm)
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Panthera
MU
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10/8 16:08:26
You’re kidding yourself (nm)
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pickle
MU
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10/8 14:57:52
You're a neoconservative
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Seagull
MU
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10/8 14:44:49
yes, i stand for capitalism, free-markets, and ...
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tmcats
KSU
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10/8 14:47:43
No you don’t
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pickle
MU
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10/8 14:58:15
lol (nm)
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90Tiger
STL
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10/8 14:59:52
except for the capitalism and free markets part
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Seagull
MU
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10/8 14:52:21
if you say so(nm)
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tman
MU
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10/8 14:44:32
Is it ethical to use your intelligence assets to perform a
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Seagull
MU
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10/8 14:38:16
that simply not enough information to give a yah or nah(nm)
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tmcats
KSU
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10/8 14:39:37
US did that in Ukraine, BOB (nm)
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90Tiger
STL
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10/8 15:00:23
there was a coup in ukraine, i must have missed it(nm)
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tmcats
KSU
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10/8 15:05:57
lol, yeah, you missed it in 2014 - ask V. Nelund about it.
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90Tiger
STL
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10/8 15:24:23
2014. Victoria Nelund.
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pickle
MU
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10/8 15:13:30
Ukraine is a good example and recent
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Seagull
MU
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10/8 14:40:26
good example of what - russian aggression?(nm)
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tmcats
KSU
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10/8 14:41:32
America using the CIA to overthrow the government (nm)
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Seagull
MU
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10/8 14:42:09
the cia is a useful agency in controlling the theater ...
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tmcats
KSU
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10/8 14:44:18
That's called a laydown
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Seagull
MU
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10/8 14:45:24
is it the right thing to do?(nm)
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tmcats
KSU
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10/8 14:46:12
Is it ethical
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Seagull
MU
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10/8 14:46:40
and i posed the ethical question ...
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tmcats
KSU
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10/8 14:53:02
No. It isn't under any law (nm)
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Seagull
MU
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10/8 14:53:55
therefore, it is not just nor ethical(nm)
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tmcats
KSU
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10/8 15:01:35
But still did it
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Seagull
MU
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10/8 15:27:34
You mean your warmongering? (nm)
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Seagull
MU
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10/8 14:26:11
although i served in vietnam ...
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tmcats
KSU
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10/8 14:27:35
or Russia invades Ukraine? (oh, "american interests"
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90Tiger
STL
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10/8 14:31:56
By America he means Lockheed Martin, Raytheon,
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Seagull
MU
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10/8 14:34:40
the american war machine is one component ...
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tmcats
KSU
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10/8 14:37:56
Protect this country from who?
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Seagull
MU
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10/8 14:39:05
china and russia would be two(nm)
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tmcats
KSU
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10/8 14:40:08
try harder to be coherent(nm)
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tmcats
KSU
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10/8 14:34:08
Sounds like warmongering to me
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Seagull
MU
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10/8 14:31:37
no, my source is st. thomas acquinas ...
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tmcats
KSU
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10/8 14:33:26
That's not a very good source (nm)
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Seagull
MU
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10/8 14:35:19
well, i have found nothing to quarrel with in acquinas'
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tmcats
KSU
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10/8 14:38:57
How does invading a soverign country fit into the
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Seagull
MU
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10/8 14:39:57
russia invaded a soverign country(nm)
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tmcats
KSU
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10/8 14:40:51
So did America (nm)
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Seagull
MU
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10/8 14:42:28
defending "american interests" (nm)
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90Tiger
STL
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10/8 14:32:15
that's it? That's the sum of your analysis? lol (nm)
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90Tiger
STL
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10/8 14:15:26
you want a book?(nm)
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tmcats
KSU
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10/8 14:16:10
how about something deeper than a child's response? (nm)
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90Tiger
STL
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10/8 14:20:10
isolationism is bad policy ...
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tmcats
KSU
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10/8 14:22:52
anti-interventionism is not isolationism
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Seagull
MU
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10/8 14:25:37
russia invaded ukraine(nm)
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tmcats
KSU
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10/8 14:26:21
To defend Russians being slaughtered by Ukraine (nm)
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Seagull
MU
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10/8 14:27:05
russia invaded ukraine - ukraine's response is just(nm)
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tmcats
KSU
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10/8 14:28:13
even if you accept that absurdly simplistic view, why does
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90Tiger
STL
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10/8 14:31:10
there is a just cause relationship at play here ....
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tmcats
KSU
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10/8 14:35:23
why is that? the people of North Korea don't deserve
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90Tiger
STL
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10/8 14:59:06
To stop Ukraine from their continual slaughter of
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Seagull
MU
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10/8 14:30:44
you're wandering off topic now, Bob. Not intervening
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90Tiger
STL
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10/8 14:25:15
it's perplexing because i don't understand the difference ..
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tmcats
KSU
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10/8 14:31:40
America's Interests are identical in each region? (nm)
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90Tiger
STL
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10/8 14:32:44
american interests are to defend against aggression, yes(nm)
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tmcats
KSU
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10/8 14:45:35
but not North Korea if China invades? how about
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90Tiger
STL
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10/8 15:01:17
Yeah. Those peace loving Ukrainians and Israelis just
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Seagull
MU
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10/8 14:46:20
They aren't "free states"
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Seagull
MU
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10/8 14:32:24
There are no mega followers
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Wildcat
KSU
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10/8 14:12:15
do you support Ukraine? Are you all in?(nm)
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tman
MU
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10/8 14:12:06
not sure what all in means but yes ...
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tmcats
KSU
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10/8 14:15:38
that means boots on the ground if necessary
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tman
MU
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10/8 14:19:05
support for ukraine has thus far bloodied vlad ...
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tmcats
KSU
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10/8 14:24:27
give you credit. If it is critical it has to be worth
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tman
MU
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10/8 14:32:33
You should see what it's done to Ukrainian men
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AWOLTiger
KC
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10/8 14:27:03
So you're cool if a nuclear war breaks out?
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Seagull
MU
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10/8 14:26:43
Ukraine vs Russia should be Europe's concern not US
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MU-TULSA
MU
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10/8 19:45:34
What about when Americans invaded Iraq?
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Seagull
MU
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10/8 14:18:07
i argued strongly against that at the time(nm)
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tmcats
KSU
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10/8 14:51:51
sure you did (nm)
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Seagull
MU
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10/8 14:52:36
I don't think he's ever been to Gaza. Why make a
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90Tiger
STL
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10/8 14:09:27
He said he did then his campaign doubled down
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JayHoaxH8r
MU
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10/8 14:10:15
I'd guess they are lying (nm)
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90Tiger
STL
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10/8 14:10:50
Why would he go visit terrorists?(nm)
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AWOLTiger
KC
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10/8 14:09:13