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they're just impractical

Posted on: March 27, 2024 at 09:28:23 CT
FootballRefugee MU
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for anything but to and from work (if work is close)

a very popular poster here tried to insist otherwise some years ago and was a bit gnarly when these points were shared with him - and now that more folks have these cars and can see what batteries do and don't do in all conditions ... it's much worse than advertised.

I have plenty of friends and some family that tried them out - pretty much the gamut of use cases - and it can basically replace a volkswagen beetle (and that, very very well).

Americans purchase most of their cars on extrinsic value - the ability to do many optional things well enough - hence the popularity of SUVs and trucks. We were pushed into the suburbs by a variety of public-induced conditions and the bigger cars/trucks are safer, they can handle ferrying stuff for yardwork etc., and can manage some vacation travel. This is lost on Europeans and the effete snobs who think Europe has it all figured out
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Cybertruck vs Rivian vs F150 Lightning - Joeboo MU - 3/27 08:49:31
     International is going to build an EV Scout but it's really - alstl MU - 3/27 09:53:12
          Who got the Case IH Red Zone?(nm) - CulturedDan MU - 3/27 09:57:04
          Its probably going to be reasonable for a family with 2 cars - Joeboo MU - 3/27 09:56:40
               PHEV is the sweet spot, and will be for a while IMO - cooter MU - 3/27 10:40:44
               At 90K there are cheaper alternatives(nm) - alstl MU - 3/27 10:08:19
                    can you list all of them please? (nm) - phrejd MU - 3/27 11:00:26
                    There are electric vehicles much cheaper than 90k. There - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 3/27 10:17:08
                         Ford F150 starts at $36K EV version 90K - Thats - alstl MU - 3/27 10:45:23
                              Ok, he didn't specifically state people were getting F150 - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 3/27 10:56:18
                              but you can also easily spend $90k on a non-electric F150 - Joeboo MU - 3/27 10:53:19
                                   Also, you can get an F150 Lightning for around 50k it's - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 3/27 10:59:49
                                        People who are book smart street stupid pay that much(nm) - alstl MU - 3/27 12:23:52
               Road trip solution - CulturedDan MU - 3/27 10:01:11
                    RE: Road trip solution - Joeboo MU - 3/27 10:02:49
                         modification needed for mild days - CulturedDan MU - 3/27 10:05:28
     the charging time - FootballRefugee MU - 3/27 09:34:59
          Eventually some smat person will figure out a way - alstl MU - 3/27 09:55:37
               Solide state batteries will have charge times similar - lqf2b8 MU - 3/27 10:39:10
               I don't think you are understanding the "battery" in an - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 3/27 10:13:27
                    I wonder how large a mobile battery pack would need - Joeboo MU - 3/27 10:23:26
                         I don't think we are even close to that. There is a reason - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 3/27 10:33:51
     GIGAWIPER(nm) - CulturedDan MU - 3/27 09:19:07
     I was looking at those F150 Lightning's a few months ago - MIZ45 MU - 3/27 09:15:59
     How many people tow short distances? - meatiger MU - 3/27 09:13:33
     Are the insurance premiums on those super high? (nm) - Nebraska99 STL - 3/27 09:02:32
          Rivian, yes.any damage to a Rivian is basically a total loss - Joeboo MU - 3/27 09:04:13
               The entire repair industry for EV’s is playing catchup - Grasslands MU - 3/27 09:28:12
     I love the Rivians, but the tech just isn't there yet - Sal CMSU - 3/27 09:00:20
          I like them too, but I absolutely hate those headlights. - blake1771 MU - 3/27 10:47:54
          all 3 of those perfomed about 30% low on estimated mileage - Joeboo MU - 3/27 09:01:10
               ... and then you turn on the A/C - FootballRefugee MU - 3/27 09:13:50
                    Rode in an electric car uber this past weekend and the - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 3/27 09:22:36
                         I bet it's not the heater, I bet it's the fact that the - cooter MU - 3/27 09:31:26
                              it's both - FootballRefugee MU - 3/27 09:31:54
                         they're just impractical - FootballRefugee MU - 3/27 09:28:23
                    towing wouldn't even be on the radar for me - Sal CMSU - 3/27 09:15:00
                         that's smart - FootballRefugee MU - 3/27 09:29:41
               Yeah it would make longer commutes kind of sh*tty - Sal CMSU - 3/27 09:05:19
     is it a rule that they have to look terrible?(nm) - TigerA MU - 3/27 08:53:09
          I dont like the Rivian headlights, but it looks ok other - Joeboo MU - 3/27 08:54:30
               Are the Cybertrucks out yet? I have never seen one.(nm) - Carlos Rossi KC - 3/27 08:57:11
                    officially, I dont think they are - Joeboo MU - 3/27 08:59:25




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