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You could argue that

Posted on: March 2, 2024 at 08:35:20 CT
4TigersinMichigan MU
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But if someone does not see it that way, why should they be forced to accept those values under threat of force? And remember, I am not on the side saying it is wrong to use force to inflict your values on others.

Edited by 4TigersinMichigan at 08:43:11 on 03/02/24
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But we should just let everyone do what they want - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/2 07:58:49
     I would ask who is the "we" that is making the decision to - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 3/2 09:01:26
          that is the challenge to laws who is "we" - fatrat MU - 3/2 10:16:26
          It's the "we"'as defined by the layout of our - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/2 09:11:04
               lol (nm) - pickle MU - 3/2 11:24:22
               Lot of people in our representative republic want to jail yo - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 3/2 09:20:59
               Who has advocated the wish of every person should be - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 3/2 09:15:40
                    It can be argued that Hokie is too stupid to understand - El-ahrairah BAMA - 3/2 09:19:35
                         What ummmm and pickle have shown is that some - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 3/2 09:24:22
                              True - Wildcat KSU - 3/2 10:33:12
                              No system is immune to the weakness and - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/2 09:29:15
                    I don't believe I have ever claimed that to be - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/2 09:17:39
          Biden and McConnell and Pelosi - El-ahrairah BAMA - 3/2 09:08:02
               Yeah that doesn't sound too great(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 3/2 09:11:36
     That should stop it(nm) - El-ahrairah BAMA - 3/2 08:38:11
     Obviously, Oregon is against freedom. Fortunately, natural - hokie VT - 3/2 08:10:33
          making it criminal will be sure to make people stop - ashtray UF - 3/2 09:32:48
               No law makes all things stop - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/2 09:38:40
                    ok, making it criminal will make most people stop - ashtray UF - 3/2 09:39:33
                         The law is being changed back for a reason - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/2 09:41:23
                              and it won't do anything to improve the problem - ashtray UF - 3/2 09:42:25
                                   I bet overdoses go down - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/2 09:43:54
                                        overdoses go down when an addict dies or gets clean - ashtray UF - 3/2 09:45:06
                                             There is a reason these problems began - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/2 09:51:41
                                                  prove it (nm) - ashtray UF - 3/2 09:52:10
     Who said that (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 3/2 08:09:55
     “let.” as if someone needs your permission - pickle MU - 3/2 08:08:39
          says the petulant ignorant child lol(nm) - TigerFan92 STL - 3/2 09:59:17
          So are you no govt boy. - RHAYWORTH MU - 3/2 09:19:24
               you’re ignorant, RHAY - pickle MU - 3/2 12:02:42
                    Truth hurts. Thats why both you an asstray replied - RHAYWORTH MU - 3/2 13:07:49
                         I replied because you're stupid and an easy target - ashtray UF - 3/2 13:18:53
               false (nm) - ashtray UF - 3/2 09:33:28
          You sound pretty - GODZILLA MU - 3/2 08:19:19
               you’re projecting, NPC (nm) - pickle MU - 3/2 09:31:04
                    False. - GODZILLA MU - 3/2 09:34:53
                         no, you’re projecting - pickle MU - 3/2 09:45:07
          ^^^^ vapor locks on words ^^^^(nm) - Tigrrrr! MU - 3/2 08:09:27
     Hey, question for you going back to this thread - ummmm MU - 3/2 08:07:05
          Yes I do - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/2 08:30:29
               How can you say defense of property - meatiger MU - 3/2 11:44:50
               Your answer of "yes I do" is an expression of a - ummmm MU - 3/2 08:33:05
                    You could argue that - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/2 08:35:20
                         These aren't values. Values is the wrong word/concept - ummmm MU - 3/2 08:43:12
                              I was using meat's words - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/2 08:47:09
                                   No avowed supporter of the natural law has ever - ummmm MU - 3/2 08:50:15
                                        Those laws sound great. You should write them down. Nm - hokie VT - 3/2 08:56:16
                                             RE: Those laws sound great. You should write them down. Nm - ummmm MU - 3/2 09:15:24
                                                  Unwilling AND incapable(nm) - Wildcat KSU - 3/2 09:59:37
                                             And, under threat of force, make all comply - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/2 09:00:44
                                                  That isn't how a natural law works. Your first answer to my - ummmm MU - 3/2 09:21:57
                                                       he thinks the law of gravity was voted on, too - ashtray UF - 3/2 09:36:12
                                                       Call it a view, a position, a code, etc. - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/2 09:24:51
                                                            No one has told you that. That's your strawman. - ummmm MU - 3/2 09:28:22
                                                                 I am flying and on my phone - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/2 09:35:58
                                                                      you’re being dishonest and trying to make this about gvmt - pickle MU - 3/2 09:59:54
                                                                      You won't find any posts saying force is fine to - ummmm MU - 3/2 09:56:27
                                                                           he’s trying to shoe horn a natural law argument - pickle MU - 3/2 10:01:08
                                                                      Phones and Tigerboard - Wildcat KSU - 3/2 09:51:19
                                                                      never once - ashtray UF - 3/2 09:37:14
                                        Correct because the force is being used to support - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/2 08:55:02
                                             Hold on, the "force" is not being used to support a view - ummmm MU - 3/2 09:17:54
                                                  What if that person truly believes it is moral - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/2 09:21:02
                                                       It doesn't matter what that person truly believes. - ummmm MU - 3/2 09:22:51
                                                            And I would agree - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/2 09:27:55
                                                                 There's no force associated with rejecting a natural law - ummmm MU - 3/2 09:30:15
                                                                      According to your belief system - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/2 09:37:36
                                                                           It's not my belief system. It's the nature of humans. - ummmm MU - 3/2 09:57:40
                                                                           nature (nm) - ashtray UF - 3/2 09:38:13
                                                                                So believes you and many others - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/2 09:40:22
                                                                                     some may not agree with the law of gravity - ashtray UF - 3/2 09:41:06
                                                                                          No other person inflicted force on them - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/2 09:42:34
                                                                                               on who? the guy who doesn't believe in the law of gravity? - ashtray UF - 3/2 09:45:50
          good lord (nm) - pickle MU - 3/2 08:09:48
               Profound (nm) - Tigrrrr! MU - 3/2 08:15:07
           Nm - hokie VT - 3/2 08:09:14
               you and 4Tigs are (nm) - pickle MU - 3/2 08:10:12
                    In a perfect world they would be free to get and stay as - Tigrrrr! MU - 3/2 08:13:38
                         If you draw distinctions between the real world, and - hokie VT - 3/2 08:17:05
     Putting them in jail and taking their money - meatiger MU - 3/2 08:00:14
          Way to avoid the issue - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/2 08:31:20
               The law was misrepresented - meatiger MU - 3/2 11:13:06




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