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There is a large disagreement on personhood. Some

Posted on: December 15, 2023 at 12:42:23 CT
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believe personhood starts at conception. Others at birth when the baby is physically separate from the mother. Others when the baby is viable, with modern technology around 23-24 weeks. Others when brain activity is believed to start.

90% of abortions are done before the 12th week.

10 states require viability of the fetus for a fetal murder charge. In the past, Illinois requires the fetus be born alive and then have died from injury for a murder charge.

Feticide laws are grounded in the interests of the state, even though they do not confer rights to the fetus. Feticide laws are argued to defend the interests of the state and the woman. Abortion laws stand between the interests of the state and the woman, protecting her interests over the interests of the state.

And feticide is a non consensual act upon the woman, where as abortion should be done with her concent.
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Murder charges - El-ahrairah BAMA - 12/15 09:02:34
     Why do they abort instead of selling the kid to gays? - ChinaTiger KC - 12/15 10:24:15
     And now you know…. the rest of the story - Spanky KU - 12/15 09:49:49
          I already knew there are kooks in your crowd.(nm) - Toger STL - 12/15 10:56:25
     This actually makes logical sense - meatiger MU - 12/15 09:47:27
     RE: Murder charges - sarasotatiger MU - 12/15 09:20:18
          Yes.. 2 Republicans introduced the legislation and - Spanky KU - 12/15 10:07:08
               Point still remains - how can there be charges against - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/15 10:21:18
                    I don't disagree with you - Spanky KU - 12/15 10:46:24
                         Yet most are afraid to try and offer a rationalization - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/15 10:52:26
                              There is a large disagreement on personhood. Some - TigerMatt STL - 12/15 12:42:23
                                   What does consent have to do with whether it is a live - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/15 13:39:42
                                        Feticide and abortion are actions taken upon the body of - TigerMatt STL - 12/15 16:43:55
     Just curious - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/15 09:07:01
          I’m okay with that(nm) - El-ahrairah BAMA - 12/15 11:40:41
          RE: Just curious - sarasotatiger MU - 12/15 09:21:35
               Just interested in the consistency people demonstrate - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/15 09:23:39
                    what if the woman was a threat to someone else? - ashtray UF - 12/15 10:00:28
                         It is possible the death of the mother and baby may not be - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/15 10:17:11
                         Using the baby as a human shield? Much like - glue MU - 12/15 10:10:05




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