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That sounds reasonable from an atheist's perspective.

Posted on: November 22, 2023 at 22:28:24 CT
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But a lack of any objective morality is a huge problem. This is especially true if there is no mutually agreed upon arbiter/decider/court system, which, of course, would require some mutually agreed upon moral code. If everyone decides on their own morality then any society & the world at large will tend to devolve into chaos and disorder. Indeed that is how dictionaries often define "anarchy"(1). It becomes a situation of who has the power to force their will upon others. It becomes "might makes right" with the only real restraint on the use of power being each individual's personally decided moral code... which isn't based upon anything other than what each person thinks at any given point in time.

1). https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anarchy

anarchy
noun
an·​ar·​chy ˈa-nər-kē -ˌnär-

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a: absence of government
b: a state of lawlessness or political disorder due to the absence of governmental authority
the city's descent into anarchy
c: a utopian society of individuals who enjoy complete freedom without government

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a: absence or denial of any authority or established order
b: absence of order : DISORDER
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          also, you didn’t correctly cite it (nm) - pickle MU - 11/22 12:13:35
          yes, hokie comes to mind (nm) - pickle MU - 11/22 12:06:02
               How about yourself? - JeffB MU - 11/22 12:47:51
                    of course not - pickle MU - 11/22 12:52:28
                         Just pointing out the obvious after you pretended that Hokie - JeffB MU - 11/22 12:57:59
                              i wasn’t pretending, Jeff - pickle MU - 11/22 13:00:31
                                   You are being deceptive... or obtuse, or both. - JeffB MU - 11/22 14:20:23
                                        neither, Jeff - pickle MU - 11/22 14:38:34
                                             Are you an atheist, pickle? - JeffB MU - 11/22 14:47:05
                                                  i am - pickle MU - 11/22 14:59:37
                                                       Why your need to highlight that you reject *my* God? - JeffB MU - 11/22 15:10:49
                                                            I’ve never said that, Jeff - pickle MU - 11/22 15:18:28
                                                                 No need for you to run, pickle. - JeffB MU - 11/22 16:30:53
                                                                      try to be honest, Jeff - pickle MU - 11/22 19:04:54
                                                                           If there is no objective meaning to life, then upon what - JeffB MU - 11/22 19:27:45
                                                                                they are two separate things - pickle MU - 11/22 19:51:26
                                                                                     That sounds reasonable from an atheist's perspective. - JeffB MU - 11/22 22:28:24
                                                                                          Non sequitur (nm) - pickle MU - 11/23 07:22:59
                                                                                               How so? - JeffB MU - 11/23 11:23:23
                                             Of course I am being honest. In that post I was referring to - JeffB MU - 11/22 14:45:12
                                                  you aren’t (nm) - pickle MU - 11/22 14:57:30
                                                       Of course I am. Our universally shared human rights are - JeffB MU - 11/22 15:15:47
                                                            you aren’t (nm) - pickle MU - 11/22 15:19:10
                                                                 Your opinion's false no matter how many times you repeat it(nm) - JeffB MU - 11/22 17:05:39
                                        You are trying to have a discussion with an ignorant troll(nm) - tman MU - 11/22 14:30:16
     I said you can’t tell anyone. At least be honest. (nm) - Outsider MU - 11/22 11:29:15
          honest? - pickle MU - 11/22 11:32:17
               Nature? And I assume you can also define that for us. (nm) - Outsider MU - 11/22 11:33:57
                    us? - pickle MU - 11/22 11:44:50
                         But you say that anything that comes from nature can’t - Outsider MU - 11/22 11:48:23
                              i didn’t say that at all - pickle MU - 11/22 11:53:17
                                   So can I determine what are rights and what aren’t? (nm) - Outsider MU - 11/22 11:54:17
                                        sure - pickle MU - 11/22 12:02:27
                                             How can I be wrong? Who decides that? (nm) - Outsider MU - 11/22 12:06:35
                                                  because you may be ignorant - pickle MU - 11/22 12:08:48
                                                       Hahahaha! You floundering and twisting is fun to watch. (nm) - Outsider MU - 11/22 12:16:45
                                                            i’m neither floundering nor twisting - pickle MU - 11/22 12:18:25
                    If rights only exist because they are granted by government - TigerMatt STL - 11/22 11:38:59
                         And if rights come from “nature” than anything that - Outsider MU - 11/22 11:40:26
                              incorrect (nm) - pickle MU - 11/22 11:45:10
                                   Why? (nm) - Outsider MU - 11/22 11:45:51
                                        because coconuts aren’t sentient - pickle MU - 11/22 12:01:26
                                             Quit avoiding the question, at least be sincere in making - Outsider MU - 11/22 12:05:31
                                                  i’ve directly answered every one of your questions - pickle MU - 11/22 12:07:07
                                                       No you haven’t. If I say I have a right to take - Outsider MU - 11/22 12:14:44
                                                            i have. - pickle MU - 11/22 12:17:57
     Imagine doing whatever you do here for 24 years (nm) - ChinaTiger KC - 11/22 11:08:26
          25, actually - pickle MU - 11/22 11:12:11
               Correct - Wildcat KSU - 11/22 11:33:17
     Out of your ass? (nm) - Tigrrrr! MU - 11/22 11:06:00




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