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You really believe this bull****? Go look up Irgun, the Jew

Posted on: October 30, 2023 at 02:24:43 CT
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terrorist organization attacking Arabs and British.

This bull**** video is propaganda hiding what Jews were doing.

Ask yourself why Solomon Ben Ami, the Israel foreign minister, part of the team at Camp David, said that if he were Palestinian, he’d have rejected Israel’s terms as well.

Ask yourself why Norman Finkelstein said “ it is correct to say that if you frame everything in terms of what Israel wanted, it made huge concessions. However, if you frame things in terms of what Israel was legally entitled to under international law, then Israel made precisely and exactly zero concessions. All the concessions were made by the Palestinians.”

What else did Norman Finklestein say?

“ Briefly, because we don’t have time, there were four key issues at Camp David and at Taba. Number one, settlements. Number two, borders. Number three, Jerusalem. Number four, refugees. Let’s start with settlements. Under international law, there is no dispute, no controversy. Under Article 49 of the Fourth Geneva Convention, it’s illegal for any occupying country to transfer its population to Occupied Territories. All of the settlements, all of the settlements are illegal under international law. No dispute. The World Court in July 2004 ruled that all the settlements are illegal. The Palestinians were willing to concede 50% — 50% of the Israeli settlements in the West Bank. That was a monumental concession, going well beyond anything that was demanded of them under international law.
Borders. The principle is clear. I don’t want to get into it now, because I was very glad to see that Dr. Ben-Ami quoted it three times in his book. It is inadmissible to acquire territory by war. Under international law, Israel had to withdraw from all of the West Bank and all of Gaza. As the World Court put it in July 2004, those are, quote, “occupied Palestinian territories.” Now, however you want to argue over percentages, there is no question, and I know Dr. Ben-Ami won’t dispute it, the Palestinians were willing to make concessions on the borders. What percentage? There’s differences. But there is no question they were willing to make concessions.
Jerusalem. Jerusalem is an interesting case, because if you read Dr. Ben-Ami or the standard mainstream accounts in the United States, everyone talks about the huge concessions that Barak was willing to make on Jerusalem. But under international law Israel has not one atom of sovereignty over any of Jerusalem. Read the World Court decision. The World Court decision said Jerusalem is occupied Palestinian territory. Now, the Palestinians were willing, the exact lines I’m not going to get into now — they are complicated, but I’m sure Dr. Ben-Ami will not dispute they were willing to divide Jerusalem roughly in half, the Jewish side to Israel, the Arab side to the Palestinians.
And number four, refugees. On the question of refugees, it’s not a dispute under international law. Remarkably, even fairly conservative human rights organizations like Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, in 2000, during the Camp David talks, they issued statements on the question of the right of return. And they stated categorically, under international law every Palestinian, roughly five to six million, has the right to return, not to some little parcels, 1% of Israel, which Israel is about — which Israel would swap, return to their homes or the environs of their homes in Israel. That’s the law. Now, Dr. Ben-Ami will surely agree that the Palestinians were not demanding and never demanded the full return of six million refugees. He gives a figure of 4-800,000. In fact — I’m not going to get into the numbers, because it’s very hard to pin it down — other authors have given figures of the tens of thousands to 200,000 refugees returning. That’s well short of six million.
On every single issue, all the concessions came from the Palestinians. The problem is, everyone, including Dr. Ben-Ami in his book — he begins with what Israel wants and how much of its wants it’s willing to give up. But that’s not the relevant framework. The only relevant framework is under international law what you are entitled to, and when you use that framework it’s a very, very different picture.”
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     They still won't figure out how stupid they are - ashtray UF - 10/30 07:17:54
     he's right - nobody learns the lessons they are taught - tigerinhogtown STL - 10/30 01:53:38
          You really believe this bull****? Go look up Irgun, the Jew - TigerMatt STL - 10/30 02:24:43
               If it is bull****, why do Arabs keep attacking Israel? - tigerinhogtown STL - 10/30 03:24:11
                    lol (nm) - pickle MU - 10/30 07:24:04
                    Because it's there. Oh, BTW, the Arabs have been - Toger STL - 10/30 07:06:53
                         Maybe because thats where they lived TWO thousand - GA Tiger MU - 10/30 07:53:46
                              no (nm) - pickle MU - 10/30 08:10:20
                              even you and Methuselah didn't live two thousand years - SwampTiger MU - 10/30 08:08:58
                         the other option was the middle of africa (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 10/30 07:27:55
                    Ooo I know... because there are lots of Jews there. Nm - hokie VT - 10/30 06:44:31
                    Talking to that incredibly ignorant buffoon is hopeless. (nm) - GA Tiger MU - 10/30 06:02:27
               Irgun was formed in response to Palestinian attacks on - tigerinhogtown STL - 10/30 03:02:12




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